Serious question for Floyd fans.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by osreyes77, Feb 20, 2012.


  1. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Pac picked

    A) The best date for boxing PPV (May 5 which every promoter tries to lockdown early as possible);

    B) The best boxing Venue (the MGM where Pac has fought all of his biggest fights and hold the recod for a live gate)

    C) Make testing demands that are not totally outlandish (if you know your boxing history you would know that in the biggest fights you have new conditions in the contract that have never been done before . . . kinda like $10/pound over limit.

    D) No to 50-50 is a great starting point for negotiations, especially since there are at least a dozen other things to nego.

    E) My promoter does not even want to put you on the table for the next fight.

    I am a fan of both guys but you tards are really making it harder and harder to have his back in any form . . . especially since it was Arum who basically said there was no chance in hell the fight was gonna happen. The date and the Venue are a gimme, to argue those points is like asking ; "should the fight be on PPV?" Seriously, y'all do not have a clue:bart
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It's laughable how floyd fanatics compare the countdown clock to floyd's insistence on choosing the date and venue for three big reasons:
    1. The countdown clock was an attempt to get floyd to respond and give some form of answer. Do these clowns think that clock was when they would fight? :patsch
    2. The clock was an obvious promotional tool. No one but these butt hurt floyd fans took it serious. Arum just used it to his advantage for promoting.
    3. By saying these are the same, a stupid clock and floyd choosing a date and venue w/o negotiating, you ******s are essentially saying floyd's actions were stupid as well. Of course no one ever accused Floyd fanboys of showing any smarts.

    But a few of us knew foyd had no intention to face Pac from the beginning, and after demissing the 50-50 and giving a joke offer in return, just about everyone now knows Floyd is the problem here.
     
  3. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    arum had cowboy saduim reserved and the nov date.dont change history
     
  4. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    STFU *******
     
  5. osreyes77

    osreyes77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do your research Larry. The Nov deadline was a deadline for Floyd to accept a fight. How can the fight date be in Nov if the countdown clock started just a month or 2 prior? :patsch
     
  6. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    countdown clock was in july man.what are you talking about?

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ytnQBg&usg=AFQjCNGgRzenf9faUv8FpQcP9Rg3fC_6fQ

    Thursday, July 15, 2010 | 2:16 p.m.


    Top Rank CEO Bob Arum has added a "Countdown Clock" to his company's website indicating how much time Floyd Mayweather Jr. has left to accept a Nov. 13 fight with Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas.

    Arum revealed to ESPN.com Tuesday his plans to find a new opponent for Pacquiao if Mayweather has not agreed to the fight by midnight Friday.

    Possible replacements for the fight are Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto. Margarito would likely be the preferred choice, as Pacquiao handled Cotto in fairly dominant fashion when the two met in November 2009.

    But Margarito currently is not licensed to fight in the U.S., and the Nevada State Athletic Commission tabled his recent request to obtain a license earlier this month.

    The 33-year-old fighter served a one-year ban from U.S. competition beginning in February 2009 when a California inspector found an illegal substance in his handwraps prior to a fight against Shane Mosley.

    Margarito has been encouraged by the Nevada commission to reapply for a license in California and, according to Top Rank officials, has plenty of time to submit that request before he'd be needed Nov. 13.

    Mayweather and Pacquiao widely are considered the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world. A potential mega-fight between them likely would be the richest in the sport's history


    had the nov13th date set and everything..................keep trying tho
     
  7. osreyes77

    osreyes77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Youre right. I was mistaken. Just pulled up this article I had stashed

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/15/bob-arum-posts-countdown-clock-floyd-mayweather-jr/

    So did u consider Floyd a "ducker" back then?
     
  8. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    no cause like you said they were not even negotiating.Arum this time just made every damn excuse not to make the fight happen.he even said he was talking to floyd then all the sudden he doesnt know who to talk to,then he wants to build this stadiom.them manny says he'll take less for the fans.then changes his mind
     
  9. timagen

    timagen Guest

    Nicely stated.
     
  10. KounterKing

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    I love how they ignore your post
     
  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    only haters and Tards cannot see the truth:deal
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all 'd be impresed that Pacquiao was intrested in the fight.
    However this is a complete bull**** thread.

    First of all lets address the extra testing issue. Are you aludeing that under Mayweather's terms only Pacquiao would be subjected to extra testing? Pacquiao has been. We have seen in Mayweather's bouts with Mosley and Ortiz. The two since this bout took on serious talk that both Mayweather and his oppoent were subjected to the same testing. However this has not stopped Pacquiao from making every efort from making it sound like he and only he would be subjected for testing, when we all know thats not true. pacquiao is doing this thing called lying. or puroposing distorting information for his benfit.

    Lets talk about money. Mayweather offered pacquiao a fair fincianal arangement. Who in the history of boxing besides Tyson and De La Hoya ever made as much as $40 million for a single fight. Is Pacquiao's own promotional company putting up any of the money up front to make the fight happen? Oh that's right he dosen't have one. While Mayweather has an arangement with Golden Boy Promotions. His own company puts up a portion of the money to make his fights happen and he clooects the profits. It also means that Mayweather has to put in more work outside of the gym. While Pacquiao leaves that to Top Rank. It's not a bad thing that he allows Top rank to do his promotional work, but he's not putting as much of himself at risk. What happens if there is a worse case sinerio and after spending the money up front. One of them gets hurt and the fight is cancled? Who made more of a fincianal risk? Mayweather or Pacquiao?
    There is another inconvenient truth that Pacquiao and his fans have todeal with. Pacquiao is comming after what Mayweather has. Mayweather is the king of the hill. Everyone's sights are on Mayweather. Not on Pacquiao, everyone who has called out Pacquiao has done so because they see him as a steping stone to Mayweather, or has been beaten by Mayweather and are looking for the next best payday.

    As far as MGM Grand vs. Cowboy
    Stadium goes. Where else are they going to hold a bout of this magatude other than Las Vages? That date is reasonable. Both will have time to recover from their last bouts by May 5th. If was possible to biuld a 40,000 seat stadium on the strip that was safe by May 5th that would not be an unreasonable propoistion However Pacquiao proposed it to be biult for a latter date becajuse he knew Mayweather was tied in to May 5th. It would have been more honest for pacquiao to just say he's not ready for the bout in the middle months of 2012, but when has Pacquiao ever been honest?
     
  13. JASPER

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    Because they do not want to hear the truth; Arum, who is PAC's promoter, is the one stopping this fight from happening . . . everything has been pointing in that direction for years:deal
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Arum has been quoted many times saying that a fight with Floyd would have to happen in Vegas "because of the high rollers and wealthy people from Asia who come to see Pacquiao."
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    It's not as though Pac's offer was any more realistic. Or any supposed offer has been since the first negotiation which Pac balked to face Clottey when additional screening was mentioned.