Serious question for Floyd fans.

so can you amswer why floyd called pacquiao then instead of arum if you think pac has no power to make this fight? floyd thinks calling pac is a step in the right decision, right or wrong?

also why floyd did not offer pacquiao any PPV upside?

 

Its called negotiations . . . oh wait they never started because Arum Said no. Its called posturing for leverage if and when Negos start. you dont give away everything from the beginning . . . oh wait Pac said he would take less:thumbsup

I am fan of pacs (and PBF) but you guys make hard sometimes. You are either dumb as **** or the biggest troll and on Arums payroll.:deal

 

everybody knows its Floyd ducking.....

 

Arum said call but was not picking up his phone . . . pac is a fighter and i think he wants the fight and PBF knows that so he called him direct since his agent would not take any of his calls. You think it might have been a last ditch effort because he had a licensing hearing coming up and they would want answers? You think that might be why he would have back up plan in Cotto? :think

 

Everyone but the usual idiots...

 

atsch Go waste someone else time cheerleader. :roll:

 

so made up your mind if floyd tried to negotiate or just postured when he called pac. was his offer of a gurantee with no PPV upside for pac a serious offer?

i don't get why you guys think 50/50 is as fair an offer as it gets and thinks that pac should get a PPV upside but floyd wouldn't give pac this to make the fight.

 

so basically floyd called pac and said, hey pac let's figth on may 5th and you get this amount with no PPV upside for you. pac said 50/50 and floyd got the fight. floyd refused and will fight someone else.

 

It's not like Floyd wouldn't take the extra testing as well, secondly Floyd's going to prison, there was no other date and stadium. The third point is reasonable and I did expect Floyd to take 50/50, but I think it's more of his arrogance rather than just ducking. You are also forgetting the amount of stupid excuses that Pac's team made in the process of "negotiations".

 

I never said 50-50 was not fair, what i said is it is not the reason why the fight never happened . . . Arum is. I think after some real Negos happened it would have come close to 50-50 in the end but nego's never really started . . . Arum said no. The issue who should get what is a whole other discussion. Pac cannot say yes without bob's Ok and bob said no from the beginning

 

you missed the point. it was not pac who would say yes but floyd. pac's only request was 50/50 and he got the fight. he agrees on everything else.

also floyd called pac. it means floyd himself believes that pac has the power to make the fight. it just happens that both sides didn't agree with the split. pac is ok with 50/50, floyd is not.

 

No PBF said hey lets fight pac suggested 50-50 and PBF stated his position. Pac could have called Bob and forget those other 4 guys I want PBF so I want you to start negos. Arum would have said "Manny I got a plan for you, lets have a tournament and then we will fight PBF before you retire" and Manny would say "yes Bob"

Bob gets a lot of ****, and I know I am the on that is giving it. But in his mind he is trying to further the career of his fighter. Bob is known for crafting fighters careers and laying and implementing a long term strategy. That's all I am saying here, I am not saying Pac ducked or even arum ducked, what i and saying it was a business decision of arums from the beginning.

Arum is the best at shaping a fighters career. look at OScar, PBF, Cotto, now pac . . . and the list goes on and on. I think Arum denies fans of some fights like Gamboa-Juanma, Cotto-PBF, and yes Pac- PBF. but boxing is a business and a sport and bob has help many of his fighters reach the highest points possible of their careers.

Bob said no because he had another direction he wanted to go with Manny.

 

i don't understand the floyd fans logic that floyd won't agree to a 50/50 split and still blames pac's team for not making this fight.

 

so what is there to negotiate when floyd initially rejected the 50/50 split? it's an important point. so are you saying that pac should have agreed to floyd's guarantee without PPV upside even if pac wants a 50/50 split as long as they continued negotiating?

 

Pac does not have the power to make the fight without Arums saying ok. Arum said no even with 50-50 so where does that leave us?:think