Serious question for Floyd fans.

I already listed several items that have to be talked over AGAIN since this is a whole new round of discussions. ring, gloves, entrance . . .etc.

 

they are secondary points. split is the major point of disagreement and floyd and pacquiao had negotiated them personally on phone. pacquiao has a simple request, 50/50 on all revenues. floyd has a complicated one where pac won't get any PPV upside.

 

:nono
You are entirely missing the point.

It never came to the situation that Arum is gonna **** everything up because Floyd never intended to push into negotiations (contract signing and such) because he rejected 50-50 and 55-45 for the winner as well.

If he accepted the 50-50 split or the latter offer we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If Bob Arum ****s things up after Floyd agreed to the split then we all know who's fault it is. But the mere fact that Floyd didn't accept the fair split after talking all that trash and making all those demands is more than enough proof who's ducking who.

 

id be angry if Floyd had not agreed

at this point who cares, if there is a date building and other **** then why not

 

there are no secondary points when you are dealing with big egos. that's why things go through a negotiation process. you come to the table with a list of demands I cam with mine and we meet somewhere in the middle. It may be closer to you want or what i want in the end but you never start with what you hope will be the final deal:nono

 

i understand your point completely but why did floyd just hanged-up after refusing pac's 50/50 offer and decided to negotiate with cotto instead? in fact, they are in contact with cotto's team way before.

 

"Serious question" and "Floyd fans" do not exist on the same time frame and place in the whole scheme of the universe.

 

You are putting the cart before the horse. Negos dont start until Bob says they do . . . Pac made an initial offer so PBF countered but for any of this to happen Bob has to say yes. Pac has a contractual obligation to go threw bob that you guys constantly ignore. Bob said no even with 50-50 so i really do not get what you point is.

As I said earlier I don't consider it a duck rather it was and always has been a business decision by bob.

 

He needed a back up plan . . . bob was in talks with four fighters at the same time . . . this is only normal. if you do not look ahead you will be left out in the cold. This is what happened to JMM, first Pac and bradley get struck off as potential fighters and then Peterson takes a khan rematch . . . now he does not have a big name to dance with.

everybody does it, and if they don't they should

 

if its against the number 1 fighter in the world
if i want that man's 0
if i want my biggest pay day ever
biggest fight in boxing history
no other BETTER options

i would take the fight in a hearbeat. that was a no brainer :good

 

so the instant floyd hears the 50/50 split offer and he decided immediately that he's done with pacman and off to cotto?

 

I do not think it happened quite like that. Both sides were courting Cotto and PBF needed a dance partner when he went to his hearing so he went with Cotto, which was the path with the least resistance. Its like booking the MGM and May 5th PBF wanted ensure he had the best back-up so no one else can move in first.

 

they flapped for a bit, but eventually manny and arum accepted floyds demands.
theyd fight at his chosen date and stadium and test.

Everything is in place just money to sort out now. This is it we're finally going to get the fight we've always wanted.

Oh waits what that, Floyd will only do it, if Pac accepts $40 mil (Equates to about 25/30%)

F*ck you floyd. Just accept the 50/50 and we'd have had the fight.

 

If Floyd thought pacquiao was going to jail and was planning to fight on that date at that venue against someone else, but pacquiao didn't go to jail and Floyd refused to fight on that date at that venue then yes, I would consider him a ducker.

 

Unfortunately Pacquiao has no real say in who/when he fights. Arum himself has said that even with 50/50 they weren't gonna fight on May 5th.