Serious thoughts on this Harry Greb shadow boxing video?

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  1. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BTW....first legal forward pass was thrown in 1906, less than 20 years before the 1925 Rose Bowl, whereas men have been shadow boxing since the time of Alexander the Great.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well the insults in this thread are entering a junior high school level of childish behavior.
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Klompton,

    You're taking a beating in this thread. Take off your blinders. If you had any sense you'd drop out of this thread all together. You act like you own all the facts, and no one else can use them!

    If you saying a news paper quote is a lie, you going to have to prove that, and with 90+ years passed, and no video, you'll need Perry Mason, and a room full of under educated boxing fans to pass the smell test. Not happening here! If you read carefully I did not quote Bert Sugar at all. DUH.

    And once again, proof that Greb had had enough of Tunney, who had become much better. After the 5th fight, which was won by Tunney:

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    Notes
    • There was a capacity crowd of around 9,000.
    • The consensus among the newspaper reporters at ringside was that Tunney won six of the ten rounds. Some had Tunney winning eight rounds to two.
    • "That's the last time I'll fight this guy," Greb told Referee George Barton in his dressing room after the fight. "He's getting too big and too strong for me to handle. I could lick him at one time but not anymore. Tunney is really getting good."

    ^^^ Now stop acting like you own the facts and create the only narrative!
     
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  4. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet he signed a contract to fight him again which Tunney backed out of... nuff said.


    You didnt quote from a newspaper. You quoted from a website article published last month! Then you added that Bert Sugar quoted it. Sorry but Bert Sugar isnt source for anything but sweatstains on the inside of the fedora he started wearing in the 1980s to get people to think he was an old time fight reporter. He has/had as much credibility as you.

    If thats the beating Im taking then Ill take it all day long and count myself a winner.
     
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    surfinghb Active Member Full Member

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    I am !!!!
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That quote is in the book.
     
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    surfinghb Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe just an immediate reaction just after the fight? He did sign to fight him again right?
     
  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure, he did. After some reflection he wanted to get in the ring with Tunney again, because he'd fight anyone, anytime.
     
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  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Wrong, I never said Sugar said it the quote I was referring to, only that he is one of a few who thinks Greb head butted Tunney in round one. Greb could be dirty you know.

    When did Tunney back out of the contract? Details are needed. He was probably making more money elsewhere, like a million dollars to fight Jack Dempsey the next year for the heavyweight title. Ya think?! Why would he need Greb again, he just whipped him. Greb's quote is telling.

    Leave it to boxing false bravado, just like Dempsey singed to meet Wills when he knew the NYC commission would vote against it, forget the fact the fight could have been moved elsewhere. Greb did not want Tunney again, unless of course he could make a lot of money in exchange for a beating.
     
  10. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get your own ****ing details. Its not my job to educate you. You misspoke. Plain and simple. I posted an actual newspaper from the venue at the time with the headline stating Greb signed to fight. If you want to keep blithering on and on that he didn't because you found a quote by him stating he wouldn't fight Tunney again then wallow in your ignorance. I couldn't care less. Its no different than any other time you are proven completely wrong but cant admit it. Remember when you swore up and down that you had seen Langford-Hague. Then you changed it to knowing someone who had it. Then you claimed it was Ted Spoon and McVey. Both of whom publicly denied it. You just wouldnt let it go until every last straw you could grasp on to was beaten out of your hands. Remember, your defense of Kurt Noltimier's bull**** claims that he had a Greb-Gans film?? Every time you were made to look more and more ignorant you just had to keep coming back before finally stating "Well, I was just going by his word." Or the Gunboat Smith-Jack Johnson thing. You found one ****ing quote somewhere where someone said Smith had knocked him out in an exhibition and just ran with it. You couldn't admit that you had jumped the gun. I had to post Gunboat Smiths own ****ing words explaining what had happened before you finally backed off. There have been dozens of these instances. Well, here is an opportunity to shut the **** before you are made a fool of again. You seriously think the Miami sportswriters didn't know that a promoter in Miami had signed Greb to fight Tunney, who had been staying in Miami all winter, for a fight and they just accidently splattered that headline across their page?? GTFO! Just admit you grabbed one quote and didn't understand the full picture. There is no shame in that. The only shame in being wrong is when you cant admit it.
     
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    Sorry. Business did very well for me. But I am also older. So had more time to stockpile.
     
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    WOW!!!!!!!! Mr.Pot, meet Mr. Kettle
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

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    Donald Trump is arguably the most dishonest president in American history and you're taking random shots at Hillary Clinton's facts? Bizarre.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

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    How so?
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Wrong, I never said Sugar said it the quote I was referring to, only that he is one of a few who thinks Greb head butted Tunney in round one. Greb could be dirty you know.

    When did Tunney back out of the contract? Details are needed. He was probably making more money elsewhere, like a million dollars to fight Jack Dempsey the next year for the heavyweight title. Ya think?! Why would he need Greb again, he just whipped him. Greb's quote is telling.

    Leave it to boxing false bravado, just like Dempsey singed to meet Wills when he knew the NYC commission would vote against it, forget the fact the fight could have been moved elsewhere. Greb did not want Tunney again, unless of course he could make a lot of money in exchange for a beating. - Mendoza

    ROLAMO @ you. Okay, you have a newspaper headline? OMG, really, there's 100 headlines out there in boxing. No serious historian, let alone one who spent 12 years researching one fighter would take a newspaper headline as a fact. Or would you like me to find some bogus newspaper headlines on Greb, then apply your logic, as if it means something.

    Was there a purse offered for Tunney vs Greb 6?

    If so how much and when?

    " Mr. Expert " produce the above, its only your reputation on the line!

    And even if you can show this I already showed you Tunney beat the tar out of Greb in the 5th fight, and Greb's quote that's he can't beat Tunney anymore because Tunney improved. Besides as I showed you Tunney was set to make a million fighting Jack Dempsey. Less than 10,000 people ( I'd have to research to get the exact number ) saw Greb vs Tunney 5. Who would you fight if you were Tunney??

    1 ) A faded man who you just trashed ( Greb )

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    2 ) A million dollar gate and a crack at the heavyweight championship of the world?

    Easy call, now show us you can be honest and tell us your thoughts on the question as to who Tunney should fight.

    Now, you feel the need to quickly pivot away from the conversation to when Ted Spoon who no longer posts here said he too saw Langford vs Hague, and when things bubbled up to the point where he might have pissed someone off, reversed his story. Kurt N dislikes you. Lots in the community do. No surprise, but he did offer to show me what he thinks could be Greb vs Allentown Gans for free, and for judge for myself. He's alright in my book. Its not my style to do so, but I bet he knows a few things about you that you would not like repeated in a public forum and I'll leave it at that :)

    If you want to quote GB Smith's word " And he never forgot it " referring to the punch that had Jack Johnson seeing stars. Johnson gave title shots to guys GB Smith beat in Willard and Moran, but never to Smith himself! In add-on Smith mixed it with Langford who Johnson himself pulled out of a contract to meet in 1909! Hmmmmm.....And Smith flattened Johnson in the exhibition match when he was a novice, far from the fighter he became years later when Johnson still had the title.
     
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