Seriously, could anyone withstand Rocky's right against Walcott?

Agree with you unforgiven on not seeing the punch coming and moving into it. I also think rocky was particulaily good at catching people because of his volume of punches with a punch they would not see. The affect these punches had against the majoprity of his top oppentents prove my point about him not being a single shot big puncher. Also Walcott was backing off in the fight at that point to get a breathier and yes he made the wrong move making the punch worse. I would argue it is a tired guy making a mistake not a great single punch. I would agree Rocky style would wear you down to such an extend you can see the problems coming. This again makes my point of a fifty punch monster not a single shot punch speacialist.

Take away Rocky's stamina or put him in with a big heavy with a great jab who can keep him off and it does not happen. I do not see that punch getting to Walcott in the first round it need thirteen rounds to get Walcott to that point, the punch is on.

Might look like a great single shot but it is not it is last move in a chess game. Rocky's chess games were about stamina and wearing you down, not big power shots, but fifty nasty decent power shots.

 

You make good points.

I do believe Walcott made a mistake, lapsed in concentration, (and had a trickle of blood obscuring his vision) and that it cannot be guaranteed other great fighters would make the same error.
On the other hand, I guess that's what made Marciano great - he put on pressure and forced the opponent in front of him to become tired and make errors.

Having said that, Walcott was none too smart in his 2nd fight with Louis either, and got caught while doing what appears to be an unnecessary amount of his characteristic shoulder shuffling.
Others will tell me Walcott was the most skillful genius heavyweight of all-time. I dont know, i dont buy it.

I guess the answer to the thread is YES and NO.
Yes, some other fighters would always be able to take the sting out of a Marciano shot thrown at them just enough to avoid being KO'd.
But, NO, if they took it as Walcott too they would suffer the same fate.

 

I believe it was Walcott who said that Rocky hurt you more with 1 punch than Louis did with 4.

The Marciano of 1953 on back was more of a swarmer who gave up power for sheer volume. Taking a little bit off of his punches and just hitting people wherever he could still got him KO's, just not the spectacular 1 punch KO's like he had against Layne and Walcott. Against guys like Archie Moore and Don Cockell he was still putting them on ***** street and knocking them down with punches that they rolled with and did not land very cleanly.

 

A punch that knocked out Lewis wouldn't knock out Lewis

 

I belive had that shot hit Lewis the same way it hit Walcott, all things being even.

I dont see Lewis getting up. Not after he was ko by one shots 2 times.

 

The answer has to be no. no because we are talking about the actual impact under the same circumstances Walcott received a serious concussion. Walcott was out cold for a worryingly long time and never the same again proving the impact was sufficient to put anyone asleep for at least 10 seconds.

To say "yes somebody could withstand that impact" is to ignore the fact that sufficient generated force renders all human beings unconscious. Its not how big or heavy the fighter, it is the impact generated in exactly the right place.

the non penetrating stun bolt cattle gun uses compressed air and a blunt bolt to the forehead to generate exactly the impact required to knockout a bull for slaughter. this instrument is designed to effectively deliver the exact amount of force in exactly the right place without timing, to produce concussion. apparently it works on all bulls. It would put chuvalo out too! to say the correct amount of generated force to put a fighter to sleep for minuets would not knock someone out is to say that a bolt from a stun bolt cattle gun would not put them to sleep either!

a well timed punch generating all this works on humans but a whole lot of factors have to come in to produce this. it has to be perfect.

when fighters don’t get knocked out by one punch it is because they do not suffer from receiving a perfect single shot that generates that force on that particular impact.

 

Absolutely.:deal

 

Vitali.

 

vitali would be knocked as cold as a kipper.

 

Respectfully, Foreman Hook is fun!

 

Paulie Malignaggi

 

George Chuvalo certainly could. He took Joe Frazier's and George Foreman's punches, and while he lost both of those figths by TKO, he was never knocked off his feet. I am sure he would withstand Marciano's Susie Q.

 

Didn't Marciano land a pretty brutal left hook to the body just before the right hand landed?

Edit: nope, the left was more of a feint.

 

If foreman, Frazier and Marciano landed flush when chuvalo didn’t see it coming and it landed exactly the same way as Walcott was knocked out then absolutely YES it would knock out even chuvalo. Only Maybe chuvalo would get up at 11 instead of 3 minutes later.

At the end of the day the velocity on impact of a perfect KO punch generates the exact right amount of force (when the fighter has not braced himself) it will knockout anybody.

It’s ridiculously hard to land the perfect punch blind like that on a world class fighter but providing the level of force on impact is there it will do for any human. Saying it would not is like saying a non penetrating slaughterhouse cattle bolt gun does not work.

 

It was a terrific shot ... if it takes out the best chins ever, who knows ... pure speculation.