Seriously, do we need super-weight classes in boxing?

That is a lot. Or if they had a world cup of boxing. Every 4 years all the champs get into the tournament. When it's said an done, we'll have 1 champ per division.

 

I’ve been saying do boxing weight classes like what the UFC is doing but for heavyweight have it unlimited.

Heavyweight 206 to unlimited
Light Heavyweight 186-205
Middleweight 171-185
Welterweight 156-170
Lightweight 146-155
Featherweight 136-145
Bantamweight 126-135
Flyweight 125 and below

have all the midgets 125 pounds and below scrap it out at at 125 pound weight limit.

 

Super or not is arbitrary, and some of the superweight classes are the biggest jumps in boxing (ie. MW to SMW). I don't think boxing would be any better off if it did away with the "super" classes.

 

There seems to be a magic number right around 200lbs where you really could knock anyone out. Wilder could have easily made the CW limit the night he came half a second from KOing Fury.

The real purpose of cruiserweight is to be able to make fights between fairly big guys without paying the premium that heavyweights command, that's why the division is bigger in continental Europe where they're a little more frugal.

For a while I thought the extra weight classes and belt proliferation were no big deal. My theory was that if two top guys want to make a big fight they'll find a way and if they want to avoid each other they will find a way to do that. But now I'm with on getting rid of the in between classes, the fighters and promoters really are using this as a way to duck each other.

But I disagree about the lower weights. Those guys are banging, especially internationally. Those little guys earned their weight classes.

I miss that era.

 

UFC isn't any metric to measure anything by unless you want boxing limited to US & Europe. UFC doesn't care because their main markets are limited to a few countries. It has little to no presence in Japan even though 15 years ago MMA's #1 market was Japan with Pride FC doing massive numbers. Since Pride FC's collapse, the bottom fell out of Japanese MMA, & UFC which bought Pride FC hasn't attempted to seriously enter the market even though Dana is always blowing hot air about how UFC reinvests into the sport unlike boxing promoters

see bottom of this post

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...vel-of-trust-from-the-japanese-public.713312/

& below 125 existed for a century plus now with Bantamweight & Flyweight belonging to the so called "original 8" weight classes

Inoue fighting at 122 can do a stadium event on his star power alone compared to American midgets (which is exactly what they are compared to any HW) in so called "glamour divisions" at 135-147, many of whom can't even sell a high school gym. Why is that a bad thing? if you don't like below 126 then don't watch them

 

The whole point of HW is to find the actual best boxer, that is why it holds the prestige it does & why there is no weight limit. You know whoever is the best HW is the actual best boxer on the planet regardless of mythical P4P fantasy BS people indulge in

Fancy stuff 135-147 midgets do that many love watching won't save them from being launched into orbit with a single punch from a HW

If you want better cardio & less slobs at HW then may be bringing back 15 rounds will weed out some of the slobs, & refs enforcing the rules against clinching would also help

 

What are you talking about, just Europe and USA? From top to bottom, the UFC has champions in 6 different continents. It's the biggest combat sports promotion in the world with ONE a close second.

Nobody cares about midgets bro, at least not in the USA. Let all the midgets scrap it out from Super Bantamweight down.

 

All super categories, multiple alphabet titles and judges that are way off track should be eliminated.
Also, five judges and instant replay to establish the cause of cuts & blow location (low and rabbit).

 

Talking to a special needs type I understand

So in other words, Boxing is just USA & what pleases special needs types like you who reside there? This is a global sport whose modern origins lie in UK & the Marquess of Queensbury rules were written by an Englishman

Last I checked, Saudi's are interested in Inoue not many of these overhyped midgets in USA fighting (on twitter) & its Saudi that's putting on the fights fans want to see

Can't wait to see more US copium as boxing increasingly globalizes. I remember the copes about how all the good American HW's were running around with a ball just when Eastern Europeans started to take over HW & other heavier weight classes, quiet convenient

Now go watch some more U Fight Cheap slop that Dana got ready to serve you

One FC is a joke that does massive cash burn & makes up numbers & they put on shows with Thai fighters that people in US don't care about. I wonder how that squares with how only what Americans care about matters. Sor Rungvisai is a far bigger name in Thailand than any One FC fighter & he made his name at 115

In fact ONE was touting the massive numbers he drew for them on Thai TV:

ONE: KINGDOM OF HEROES played host to a series of compelling martial arts contests, headlined by a world-class boxing showdown between The Ring Magazine and two-time WBC Super Flyweight World Champion Srisaket Sor Rungvisai and the challenger Iran “MagnifiKO” Diaz from Mexico.

According to data from Nielsen, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, ONE: KINGDOM OF HEROES posted excellent viewership numbers, drawing over 25 million viewers, while setting a record-breaking peak TV ratings share of 58.5% in Thailand, and registering similarly strong numbers across the region in Asia.

https://www.onefc.com/press-releases/one-kingdom-of-heroes-registers-25-million-viewers/

Of course as with all ONE numbers, you have to take things with a pinch of salt. But I wonder why a non boxing combat sports promoter you are pimping here has to go tout the numbers a 115 lb boxer allegedly did for them

 

I think eliminating them would keep in line with my thought of having broader weights across each range.......

I've thought about that as well, I wouldn't say 235, maybe 265 or so

 

I don’t understand the Adrien Broner hate, he won Major Titles, if it was so easy there would be numerous 4 division world champions. Also, the issue isn’t the weight classes, the problem is weight bullies rehydrating 25 pounds overnight. Devin Haney should be a Junior Middleweight and Benavidez should be a Cruiserweight. You can’t have 6’1 featherweight’s like Rafael Espinoza with 74 Inch Reaches, killing themselves to compete in the lower divisions, when he walks around like a super welterweight. Jaime McDonnell is another example of dudes that are 5’11 hiding at super bantamweight, what kind of prohibited substances are these dudes using to make that weight?