Seriously, Is Pacquiao Greater Than Mayweather???

A SD win is a win, no matter how close the fight was. You have to give credit to that win especially against an equally excellent fighter like JMM who is regarded by many as the best technical fighter of this era.

 

Pimp, you need to accept the fact that wining a linear @ 147, and that being it, doesn't mean he did all he needed to @ 147. It's not unfair to say his reign at 147 left more to be desired, especially when you look at all the fighters who were there. It looks more like he took a weak Champ and ran from tougher fights.

 

I could say the same for Pac at 135 or 147. Atleast PBF was linear at 147 that's a lot more than Pac did in those 2 classes.

 

pac proved himself at 130. floyd didn't at 147. it's absurd to ask pac to prove himself at 147 when he is a smaller man than floyd.

 

You can say all you want about Pac at those weights. But what does that have to do with Floyd @ 147?

And being "linear" is NOT the be all, end all of being in a division stacked. You refuse to admit this, but beating Margarito for his WBO would have been a MUCH bigger feat then beating Baldomir for the linear title.

Sooner or later (hopefully sooner), you'll realize an answer that just asks a question about ANOTHER fighter is not an answer at all. It's nothing but a distracting point from the question asked.

Floyd's reign @ 147 is NOT complete simply because he was linear. Not with the talent in that division.

 

Sure he did and he has the linear championship and Ring Fighter of the year award to prove it. Did JMM prove he was the man at 135 by beating a shot Casa? Well then if you can give JMM credit then you can with PBF the same.

 

You're right I won't because it's not the case and here's why. At the time of the fight Baldo was a much bigger name and accomplished fighter than Margo. Baldo's wins over Gatti and Zab were better than anything on Margo's resume. Margo was a nobody only hardcore fans even knew about him. Baldo had made a name for himself by beating Zab and beating a media darling in Gatti. To say it would have been greater simply isn't true especially since Baldo was linear.

 

Pac also won vs two good champs at lower weights in Sasakul and Ledwaba. Floyd is undefeated but Pac has more fights indicating he is more active. I think they are about even at this point but Pac maybe able to surpass Floyd if he would stay retired and not fight Pac.

 

See, this is why your reasons for Floyd don't always hold up. Wasn't Casa linear? Isn't that all JMM needed to do @ 135? :nut

Truth is, 135 is all screwed up. You know that PimpC. Linear, Ring, and guy with all the belts are different fighters. Isn't Antonio Pitalua really the linear champ? Since Cruz was robbed by Casa, and then lost it to Pitalua? WOuld a win for JMM over Pitalua be more impressive then a win over Casa?
It's situations like this why beating the BEST guy in the division is more admirable, and sometimes more difficult then beating the recognized/linear/ring champ.

 

Everytime theres a poll and an actual fight. Pac always wins even when the intent for such fights and polls is for him to lose. I find this funny.

 

i give jmm credit for moving up and beating casa at 135 but he hasn't prove much at 135 unless he will beat diaz or campbell or both. pac beat not only jmm at 130 but also barrera and morales. aside from guzman, you cannot really ask for more, floyd failed to fight even one of the following at 147: margarito, cotto, williams or mosley. yes he beat oscar at 154 and hatton at 147 but at least he should have fought one of the top dogs at 147 to firmly establish himself at the weight.

 

So if i make a thread on who would be a tough win, Margarito or Baldomir you'll FINALLY answer that? Or will you make it obvious who the answer is and just NOT WANT TO ANSWER? :deal

And dude..."bigger name" doesn't mean ****. You are too stuck into that way of thinking. Really, Beating Gatti and Zab, 2 guys who proved them selves too small for 147, are better then anything margarito has done? Well, both of those wins are nothing compared to beating Margarito himself.

Like I said, you are too into "big names" and seem to think the bigger then name the better the fighter. While that can be true, it isn't always.

 

That's just it he did fight them. Both Zab and Baldo were top ranked when he fought them Baldo the champ and Zab was top 5 and the former champ. Just because you don't hold any of them in high regard doesn't make it so.

 

resume wise i'd say mayweather but his last few fights didn't do him any good.

 

You know as well as I do that regardless of names at the time Baldo had the more impressive resume he was on a winning streak and became the champ of the divison. Margo on the other hand was in obscurity having done nothing of note other to hold on to the WBO and fight no hoper mandatory after another. To say at the time fighting Margo would be a tougher win than Baldo isn't so. If Baldo and Margo would have fought back then Baldo would have been the favorite simply on accomplishments and you know it.