Set aside your dislike for Eddie Hearn 'the person' for one second.....

at one time De la Hoya was seen as boxings savior (when he started matchmaking) that hasn't turned out well. guess worst case, Hearn still is better than Golden Boy.

 

i said (or meant to say) that hearn cannot possibly be as bad as GBP. lets see what happens. boxing is dying here, a new face from a country where it is booming could help.

 

Until quite recently GBP and Top Rank used to straddle both networks and match making was poor. Evidence shows we've had better US fights and overall matchmaking since the network's locked down their relationships. Pac-May only happens after for example.

Hearn has famously put on awful cards with mismatches from top to bottom since he went exclusive with Sky. It's incredibly rare to see him take any risks at all with big names and when he does they're often silly fights where even if Kell or Bellew lose to GGG or Haye, it doesn't hurt their selling power. He only ever puts on a legit fight with risk if the fighter gets too gassed and goes hard in the media about wanting it like Brook-Spence or Frampton-Quigg. Even then he only does it if it's a Sky Sports event so he can keep his real daddy Barney Francis happy.

Hearn relies on the media machine at Sky, which extends to Murdoch's UK tabloids, to pump up fights and make you think they're competitive when they're simply not. It's propaganda and you all fall for it.

Genuinely list to yourself how many A grade 50-50 fights Hearn has ever put on. This year he made "events" out of okolie-chilemba, whyte-brown, Haye-Bellew, etc. These are all terrible, low-level fights with almost no significance. The winner goes on to nothing important and the fights aren't expected to be of high quality, yet you all lap it up.

You are exactly the kind of people who would have listened to the wireless in 1930's Germany and thought Hitler was a top bloke.

 

I think you missed my point mate. The fights were awful and propaganda driven. Haye has been shot for years and Bellew is a fat movie side kick. Neither went on to anything that matters.

Chilemba was literally a nobody. Nobody at all knew or cared about him. Nobody cares about Okolie at all after the win.

Brown was a fat, old, drug cheat who'd done nuttin. Whyte dominated and KO'd him and now nobody cares. Whyte's gone on to do nuttin.

The fights were garbage but you all lapped them up. Without the trash talking build ups you'd have been generous to give one sheet, let alone two.

Hearn is a big fat double glazing salesman who turns TV execs heads by noshing them off marginally better than the wrinkly old poof that came before him. How many A grade competitive fights has he ever put on since he, "Took over British boxing"?

 

You're right on the last point with the WBC, but Whyte could have fought anyone and been in that position. The Brown fight was a zero.

I'm just saying Hearn has a clear track record of making terrible fights that mean nothing and then using Sky propaganda to make money on them. He's no breath of fresh air to boxing. Al Haymon makes infinitely better fights and puts them on free TV and everyone on here thinks he's a total knob.

Hearn is just another old school promoter. Get a TV deal, milk it to death with mismatches and put on a "big" PPV every now and again where you've got options on both fighters and throw in a sheet undercard. The only thing he has the others didn't is Skysports news in every home and IFL interviews with all their pundits pushing his propaganda.

The US doesn't care about him at all. The Jacobs fights have had no buzz. The only thing the US cares about is making a PPV star out of AJ and fat poof Hearn knows it.

 

I disagree, I think Ortiz was more significant and competitive than any AJ fight.

Spence still has his whole career ahead of him. Just look at the evil PBC's cards this year so far and the others that are announced. Then look at Hearn's. It's all there to see IMO.

I'd say Hearn is doing very similar to what Warren did at Sky before him. He's nothing new and doing no special favours to boxing fans.

 

I'm sorry, but Haymon gets more money for his fighters. That's not even open for debate.

It's not even about Hearn Vs Haymon for me. It's the fact Eddie puts on consistently sheet cards from top to bottom and his US cards have been no different. He's only getting a look in in the US because he has Joshua and they see potential to turn Joshua into a real PPV star. Don't forget Hearn only had Joshua because at the time he turned Pro Hearn was the only game in town. Nobody else had a broadcaster in the UK. That was purely down to the fact matchroom provided a significant percentage of SkySports total broadcasting through sheet like snooker and darts.

Like I said, Hearn is no revolutionary and has done nothing special for the fans.

 

It's 100% true. Right now AJ just got offered multiples of his highest purse by Haymon. Right now all Haymon fighters are making more than Hearn's. What non PPV fighters are making millions with Hearn?

I'm in the UK and I know all Haymon's fighters. Nobody in the US knows or cared about Hearn's. How is he the king?