seth mitchell is vastly overated on here

He looks decent to me, certainly interesting. A wild powerful slugger with genuine KO power, a bit like Foreman in a way that has really set a marker down by destroying Timur. Looking forward to see who he fights next. If he's of the same standard as Timur I'll be impressed.

 

With Mitchell's age & style, I want him to only fight named, respected opponents from now on. :good

He has little time to waste, so he should make haste!

 

what punch?

 

Saw him fight ibragimov and looked ok. With him it seems to be the same story though, too short to get close to the klitschkos. I was surprised chisora got so close to vitali with his telegraphed windmilling but mitchell is quite new and is still learning so let's wait and see. Seems to be an accurate puncher and takes his chances well so it will be interesting to see how he fairs when he steps up.

 

At about the 1:40 mark of round two, Ibragimov snaps Mitchells head -- dramatically-- with a right hand. Larry Merchant mentions it. I don't think Mitchell was really hurt, but it's not a good sign that Iggy hit him so easily with rights.

 

He's an ex football player right?

 

He is still developing but in time he will be able to beat either klitchko. He has power and his boxing skills are retty good. he needs imprving and he is far from the finished product but he has more than enugh potential to beat either klit.

 

He is a former college linebacker at Michigan state.

 

He's a robot with fast hands and power. Not much more. I think his boxing skills will be exposed as rudimentary and mechanical in the future.

What Mitchell really has going for him is great finishing power. If he gets his guy hurt, Mitchell really knows how to put the fast, heavy combinations together to finish the job.

But, I think Seth's opponents have to stand right in front of him, or be reckless enough to rush him with their guard down (a al Iggy) before he can land the big bomb necessary to close the show.

I envision a big time flop in Mitchell.

 

I can't argue your or anothers scorecards. I've seen people score Oquendo 9-3 over Mormeck and I ve seen it score 8-4 Mormeck. I've seen Tiggy ahead 7-5 and seen Mormeck ahead 9-3(only giving Tiggy 2,10,11.)

But in the end, BOTH were close fights. No one dominated the other, and when your'e the LITTLE guy, controlling the tempo, pushing the bigger man back into the ropes and firing off 5-7 punches at a time, even if only landing on the arms, shoulder and behind the head, your'e gonna pile up rounds, and that's what Mormeck did in those fights.....IMHO:nut.

But, I respect your opinion as well. We just see it the opposite. I scored the rounds, and you seem to score the overall fight. And in that manner, I STILL disagree.

But as for Mitchell. His defense can improve. And SO FAR, he's shown a DECENT beard. So, like many other bang em up sluggers.....I think he's definitely gonna go places. If even for only a short time.:think

 

I shouldn't have been so outspoken about Tiggy-Mormeck: I concede that there's at least an argument that Mormeck could have won.

I disagree with your statement about pounding the arms, shoulders, etc. I simply do not give a guy credit for landing those shots. I score strictly in terms of who lands the most -- and most effective -- clean shots, to the body or head. My only exception to this rule is if the guy landing less happens to be landing blows that are damaging the other dude. But this was not really a factor in Tiggy-Mormeck. Mormeck rocked Iggy during the 6th and 7th, and again wiht an uppercut in the 9th. Iggy had Mormeck bending over and sucking wind from rights to the body in the final three. But neither guy was ever seriously hurt. So, on the cards, it should have been a punch volume scoring bout.

Tiggy-Mormeck was a hard fight to score, if you're scoring in terms of clean blows landed. Most of the clean shots landed were at close range, smothered partially, and hard to observe on film. It's strenuous work to follow action like that.

I think the reason why some fans went with Mormeck is because he was the guy who landed the flashiest, most obvious shots. He didn't land many, but those occasional blows throughout the fight would have stood out in observer's memories, inclining them psychologically to favor Mormeck.

Also, of those few rounds that were not close, and were cleanly and decisively won by either guy, it was Mormeck who prevailed. Mormeck had a very noticeable upper edge in the 6th, 7th, and 9th. I think those rounds fired up people's imaginations.

Definitely a messy, mauling fight. Neither guy was impressive. Both were sloppy. But I'm certain Iggy landed most in the first four, and in the final three. Mormeck was hanging on late. Everyone I know (boxing industry guys) agrees.

I didn't make a big deal of the decision at first, until several months ago, when I noticed that there was an outpouring of media reports favoring Iggy over Mormeck. Then I realized I wasn't the only one who saw it that way.

 

Concerning Fres-Mormeck, I didn't think it was even close. Sure, Mormeck got inside sometimes, but Fres fought a masterful defensive fight at close range. Fres always knew were the shots were coming from, and picked most of them off on his arms, elbows, and shoulders.

Remember: effective aggression is what counts. I just don't think Mormeck's aggression against Fres was effective. Even during Mormeck's best rounds, it was Fres who was landing the most clean shots to the head and body.

Against Tiggy, Mormeck was effective inside from the 5th through the 9th. In these stanzas Mormeck ripped Iggy with some good left hooks to the head. In the 7th, he consistently beat Iggy to the punch, leaving Iggy missing and looking fatigued. But Mormeck faded badly after the 9th, and was no longer effective late.

 

But Mitchell has not yet fought a serious puncher. Iggy is average to below average in power. Same is true of Taurus Sykes, Zack Page, and Hector Ferrerya. Mitchell's chin is thus still a question mark.

 

Boytsov, Helenius, Gerber, Price, Szpilka, Rivas, Perez, Abdusalamov all have good power. All are more talented than Mitchell too imo.