I'd imagine boxing is pretty popular in Ukraine due to the Klitschkos but I don't think it's the same in Russia, as far as I'm aware Basketball, Football, Ice Hockey are the more popular sports and then maybe boxing is after that among a bunch of others. Could be wrong though.
Numbers doesn't always equate to quality, you know that. But it increases odds. Still, we aren't talking about guys who didn't, or couldn't make it to the pinnacle of other sports, we're talking about guys who are clearly world class athletes in another sport, and supposing how they might fair in boxing if they had proper training and been indoctrinated at a young age. It shouldn't be a hard sell to think that some of these world class athletes' would likely find some success in boxing. You're saying the 'excuse' holds water for others, but not the american HW?
But isn't that the case with every country? I mean where is boxing the most popular sport? Maybe in Cuba, that's it. Any country could claim the same.
Thing is FWs and MWs really can't play in the NFL or NBA, so that isn't really what I am addressing. Yes, boxing in general doesn't have the same draw to the youngins as it has in years past, regardless of weight. But when a world class or potential world class athlete is getting his indoctrination to a sport, and there are options, with far greater promise for them, minus the voluntary and sustained beatings, it's easy to see why boxing wouldn't be the draw to them.
Sure they can. It isn't so much that boxing isn't the post popular sport, baseball says the same thing..... They are losing potential talent to the likes of the NBA and NFL. PS- It shoes in Cuba, doesn't it?
That's a load of horse ****, if your so called ¨top athletes¨ never trained boxing at all and were never interested, that's because they dont like it, they are not FIGHTERS at heart, they don't like getting punched or punch other people, they'd rather chase ***** instead. Do you think the likes of Sonny Liston, Foreman, Ali, etc would be basketball or NFL players today if they had been born in the 90's? NO, they still would be fighters, you cant succeed at the highest level of any sport if you dont LOVE said sport, you need to be a fighter at heart to succeed in boxing, and all those ball chasers obviously never had it. Foreman himself said that if he had been born in recent decades, he would have been a UFC fighter, yeah another fighting sport. In short, murica's dismal state in the HW division is because most of your FIGHTERS are lazy, out of shape, of simply outclassed by better fighters from around the world, sucks for you that boxing is a global sport now, the iron curtain is no more and you cant monopolize the HW championship anymore
Every country has sports that "steal" the best athletes from boxing because it just isn't that popular anywhere. The problem is that unlike in days of the past when boxing was hugely popular in America and not as much elsewhere, it's now on much more even ground.
Agreed. And the fact the potential fighters are flocking to other sports is symptomatic of that. If boxing suddenly had a tremendous resurgence in the US, I'd venture to guess that we would see a whole lot more talent spring up. I'm not into the nationalistic side of the debate. But people who aren't considering these others factors are kidding themsleves.
Oops. Doesn't suck for me as I'm not into boxing for the nationalistic trolling. You're kidding yourself if you think expanding the talent pool doesn't equate to expanding talent, even for murica. Liston/Ali/Frasier is a failed argument, as no one said great boxers would be great at other sports, nor viceversa. You're seeing what you want to see.
Seth mitchell proved American fight fans are utter fukin MORONS.:hi: He would have knocked out Joe Frazier thou... Americans little Klitschko Killer.:rofl
Yes and all the Swiss enjoy a large cup of hot chocolate on a cold day. Lmao, maybe that's a bad example. Anywho not sure how you just lumped 300 million into the category of Seth Mitchell worshipers but hey who am I to judge I'm sure your a nice objective guy.
Americans should still dominate pro boxing. They have by far the most registered pro fighters and the infrastructure has not fallen apart like so many claim. The training is there for anyone who wants it, particularly in urban neighborhoods. It is also not very expensive and often times kids that show potential get everything subsidized. Couple this with the blatant favoritism Muricans get form their Muricentric boxing infrastructure and it is pathetic they do not control every division over lightweight.