Setting the record straight on Marvin Hart. Apollack's book on Hart

FIGHT BY ROUNDS.
Round 1—Hart crouched low and
jumped at Johnson with left. They
clinched and tried for body biows. Johnson
stopped a right with elbow and
they clinched again. Johnson used right
on ribs, and Hart swung a harmless
right on the ear. Johnson joulted him
with left on chin In a clinch. :Hart was
short with right to ribs and Johnson
smashed him twice on jaw with right.
Johnson used right freely on body in
clinch., Johnson biopKO?! left for face
find Inugherl. Hart sWung-right around
Johnson's neck. • T.hey clinched and
Hart's efforts to land while holding
made Johnson laugh. The round was In
Johnson's favor.
Round 2—Johnson backed Hart to a
corner and clinched as Hart rushed.
They-worked to the corner while leading
and Johnson rapped Hart over the
kidneys with right. They broke and
clinched again. Johnson protected his
ribs with elbow and jolted Hart on the
jaw with right. Hart got in a right over
the heart in a rush. A moment-later he
repeated it. Then they .clinched and
Johnson smothered Hart's attempts to
hit while holding. They broke away and
Johnson fought faster. He caught Hart
with left hooks and right uppercuts
while Hart was trying to get to close
quarters. Hart put an overhand right
on neck just before round closed
Round 3—Johnson stood well away
and then jumped in with a straight
left whl;h Hart blocked. They clinched
and swung around, punching with free
rights. Johnson drew away from right
and loft swings, which would brave put
him out If they had landed. Hart had
good luck in smothering- a right uppercut
and left swing for stomach. Hart
missed Johnson's jaw by an Inch with
a right swing and Johnson laughed.
Johnson feinted rapidly and Hart closed
with him.' Johnson caught Hart a left
uppercut swing- on tho mouth. Hart
rushed and swung his right on the
ribs. Johnson, apparently, was not halt'
extended.
Round 4—Hart rushed to a clinch, and
Johnson rapidly rapped him. over the
ribs with Is right while holding. Hart
grazed Johnson's ribs with right, and
Johnson uppercut him on face. Thefe
was a good deal of clinching, and the
leads on both sides were smothered.
Then they ha.u a lively mixup on the
ropes, Hart nutting In over-hand jolts
on the ear, while Johnson rammed his
right into Hart's ribs. Hart'crouched
down and escaped two or three fierce
right-handers aimed at his head. They
were clinging to each other at the belt.
Round 5—Hart reached ribs with right
and they clinched. Johnson blocked left
swings and shot in a straight left on
heart. A straight left from Johnson
went over HartTs shoulder and Johnson
blocked another left swing for the face
Johnson smashed In straight left on
mouth and they clinched and worked
across the ring. Johnson held Hart so
that the Kentuckian could not get In
any sneak punches at close quarters
Johnson's strength came into play.
Hart's head being made the target.
Johnson drew his head aside to avoid
a right swing. He uppercut Hart with
short rights as Hart pressed in. They
were in a clinch again at the'bell.
Round 6-Hart rushed and his- head
went back from a jarring lefti: Johnson
shot in another straight left, the most
telling punch of the fight, Hart ducked
from a-third, and then Johnson hooked
j him in the stomach with left. Thev
clinched and scuflled. Both .used rleht
on ribs and head. They broke.the clinch
and went Into another. When they
broke again Hart was trying to get
close and .received a hard right on tho
cheek. Johnson poked in a straight left
and tried several right uppercuts, which
Hart stopped with his crossed forearms.
Hart grazed Johnson's cheek with a
fierce right swing- as the round ended.
Round 7—Johnson's left shot Over
Hart's shoulder and they clinched. It
happened the second time, ending in a
clinch. They/bumped together again and
scuffled, neither getting In a telling
blow. • Johnson hooked Hart In the
mouth with left and followed with
straight left. .Thero-was a good deal of
clinching along the ropes. Johnson used
his straight left several times and Hart
was at-a disadvantage; Johnson snapped
right across on Jaw. -Hart swung a. right

swing with his elbow. This happened.

n - right on-hls They /went In close and began
l,eJ2ft .hannsodn lsecfot resdw icnlge analnyd -wleitfht
hook swings. He put in one chopping
left on face and right under heart
There was a long spell of holding and
or blows
Johnson sent In right on stomach and
nf to °»nchlng -and .'sout- hing again. Johnson scored a right up-
l}i?gieJhi°ti s' w1ifnega koinnE n eacwk aayn. d Hsaervte.rlaaln, doef d thae
white_man's sympathizers Jumped to
tieli- feet and yoUed. Johnson laughed.
Ho sent In swift right on temple. It
WOK the last D.unph of the round.
Koiind 0— Johnson loosened up In this
round and did some fast two-handed
punching, reaching Hart's face repeatedly.
Hart stood to his guns. He drove
Johnson back with swinging' blows but
Johnson came at him again. Johnson
reached the face repeatedly with both
gloves, and Hart mod- freely Johnbons
straight lefts wore -particularly p i iSmnff> ,It Xas vorJ' evident by his exhibition In this round that he was
either ultra careful, or else was
rollrfdl reS6rVe '"
tthoi ,mMiddlie ~o f the ring, andt oGgerethseirra i'nins
separated them. Johnson was^now the
aggressor Ho jarred Hart with
•straight^ efts In the face nnd pressed
him to the ropes in the clinches. He
drew away easily from Hart's swines
and he baffled Hart's efforts to sbo^efn
-the.elnohea. Johnson kept right along
with his straight lefts, these pUnche!
frequently running Hart back to the
ropes. Hart was game but overmatched.
Ho swung on the ribs with
right and- then became the mark for a
groat number of loft hooks and short
right uppercuts. lnH ae c-okre"pet"r rauts htulr*iff reacl?°<1 Johnson with
c.r,o,=s sed-. hMi m on thaos aijna wa. ndT hJeonh ntshocnv
were breast to breast, slugging? Johnson
allowed his head to rofl when Hart
reached him with over-hand wallops.
Johnson began vising a left shift. Hart
blocked It twice, and .then.. -Johnson
nailed the .Kentuekian on the chin with
a right uppercut. Johnsono landed a
brace of rights on the face, arid Hart's
left eye puffed up. Johnson Was fully
extended now. They began to swing
rights simultaneously. Hart was the
first to land and Johnson reeled a pace
or two. He came right back and there
was a flerre exchange of rights.

 

Sorry about the quality!

Round 12-Hart rushed and, they came
to a clinch. Johnson was there with a
straight left and they grappled and
pressed back to tho ropes. They were
out of one clinch and into another, and
between aUnohee Ilflrt'B i&ce was batto,
reached Johnson's head
with left, but it seemed to do little
damage. Hart drew away from right
and then landed several lefts and right
in succession, Hart gave an exhibition
of gameness. He kept rushing and
swinging. The last blow of the round
was a, right-hander from Hart, which
landed on Johnson's jaw.
Round 13-aohnBon wan looking serl-
ous probably at the thought of the
way Hart assimilated punishment.
There was a deal of clinching and
scuffling and Johnson In every breakaway
maiuifiod to shoot right uppercuts
in on Hart's chin. Hart did not clinch.
He was continually trying to free an
arm and get a punch,while they were
grappling. Johnson set'himself repeatedly
and drove hard blows. But Hart
did not stagger or fall.
Round 14&#8212;Johnson pressed Hart to
the ropes, but did not laud squarely.
Hart swung over to Johnson's jaw.
Johnson came back with a couple of
straight lefts. Hart swung left on fa'ce
and followed with right. Then Johnson sent
in lefts on mouth and nose. Hart
was the aggressor. Ho rapped the face
again with his right. Johnson was
slower in this round than in the preceding
ones.
Round 16&#8212;Hart rushed across the ring
and Johnson dodged away. Hart charged
him and carried him to the ropes. Then
Johnson cut loose with some stiff lefts
and painted Hart's face a fresh crimson
color. Johnson kept using his left
while Hart placed his whole reliance on
the right .swing. He reached the hollow
of Johnson's neck a few times.
Hart sent Johnson's head back with a
left hander.
Round 16&#8212;Hart planted left on Johnson's
throat. Johnson came back with
left on mouth. Under Instructions from
his corner Hart began to use a straight
left. He tilted Johnson's head a couple of
times. Both men were using their
lefts now and both reaching the face.
Hart put in one extra hard left and then
they stood close together and smashed
each other. Hart's right-handers fell on
Johnson's ribs, and Johnson's left and
right on the sides of Hart's head.
Round 17&#8212;After a couple of passes,
Hart tilted Johnson's head with a
straight left. Johnson pressed him to
the ropes and got in a right uppercut.
Hart forced him back across the ring
and put In a right on the stomach.
Hart blocked a number of lefts and
rights, and then Johnson got in an uppercut
with right. Hart put in left and
right on face. Johnson backed him to
the ropes and smashed him in .the face.
Hart shook his head and then rushed,
rammed in a right short on the ribs.
Hart was well hammered in this round
and appeared to be tired
Round 18&#8212;Hart was there with right
over heart. He then rushed Johnson
and dealt him a right oh the jaw. Johnson
loosened up and reached face with
lefts and, rights. Hart pounded Johnson
over kidneys with right. Johnson
scored on the cheek with right, and then
Hart got back with a swinging right
on chin. They mixed up near the ropes,
Johnson putting in the greatest number
of blows. Hart did not falter an instant.
He drove a right in on Johnson's ribs
and was pressing Johnson into a corner
at the bell.
Round 19&#8212;Hart led off with a left to
the mouth and they clinched. Hart
scored with right. Johnson came back
with two straight lefts on face. Hart
reached ribs again and 'followed with
another to the ribs. Hart was making
a target of the blackman's rib's, and
Johnson kept countering him on the
face. Hart drove another to the ribs,
and Johnson missed him on jaw. Hart
put in a full swing right hook and there
was a lot of cheering. McGrath shouted
to Johnson:-"Will you please hit."
Round 20&#8212;They went right into clinch
and Greggaihs pulled them apart. Hart
shot in clean straight left on mouth and
then they closed and began grappling
and punching. Greg-gains separated
them several, times. Hart swung left,
which landed over the ear and Johnson
poked in left and right on face. Hart
put in a stiff right on stomach. They
hung together and Greggalns separated
them. Hart ducked Johnson's lelthanders
and smashed right on ribs.
Johnson got in right cross on jaw.
They held on and fought at the ropes,
both using free rights
Flashlight photograph taken, which
caused an Illumination, and tho men
turned and walked to the corners,
thinking it was the end of the round.
Hart discovered his mistake first. He
rushed over and struck Johnson. Then
the official gong sounded the end of the
round. Greggains slapped Hart on the
shoulder and proclaimed him the winner.

 

In the light of this painstaking round by round , report,[ for which I thank you],allied to the excellent reports, provided by Slakka,Is there ANYONE on this forum who seriously beleives ,or gives any credence to the absurd statement, Mendoza has tried to foist on us as a direct quote from Johnson?

"I don't know of any fighter who was better than me ,when I was in my prime.But there was one fighter who beat me,and he beat me good,I'm talking about Marvin Hart."
UTTER , UNSOURCED , BOLLOCKS , FROM A BIASED ,BIGOTED,BULLSHITTER.

 

I dont believe Johnson would have said that. the guy was an ego maniac to his death. But, I also dont think, when taking into consideration ALL of the available reports. It is out of the question to suggest it was a close a fight.

 

That seems to be a reasonable assumption.:good

 

Ditto.

 

According to your "quote", Hart beat Johnson good.
That has now been quietly discarded .

It has been generally established, through reports ,and round by round accounts ,that Johnson DESERVED the verdict.

Your manic obsession with traducing Johnson's reputation means that posters cannot take you seriously, because your hate agenda is all too obvious.

Having lost this battle [once again], you now revert to the old chestnut, the draw with Jim Johnson.

Not too long ago you tried mightily to imply this was a scheduled 20 rounder and that Johnson should have lost his title by corner retirement,

Newspaper accounts of the day, put paid to this lie, and you fell silent on the subject for awhile,recharging your bile .

It is a known fact that Johnson broke a bone in his left arm during this fight. Most objective posters would find that a reasonable excuse for a poor showing ,but you are not objective ,or even rational on Jack Johnson.

You accord Vitali Klitschko all the slack imaginable for quitting with a shoulder injury ,against the light hitting Chris Byrd, in a fight Vitali was winning handily.
Yet castigate Johnson for going 10 rounds with a hefty bruiser like Jim Johnson,whom , CBZ describes as 6'3" 220-240lbs.
Jack was 35 years old and, had not fought in a year and a half when he took on Jim Johnson, yet he struggled through the 10 rds to a draw with a broken bone in his arm.

Klitschko was 28 years old, had fought 4 months earlier , and quit in the 9th round.

Double standards.

Johnson and Jeanette met 7 times Jeanette won 1 ,by a dsq in a 6 rounder.
Johnson went low unpurpose? .

You do not know that to have been the case,it is conjecture .

No one on here thinks Jeanette was superior to Johnson.

No one agrees with your bull****, as has been posted on this thread, so do yourself ,and us a favour and change the record.

 

You should have said vitriol, Mr Bigot, that is the noun equivalent of the adjective vitriolic.:good

 

I dont think it has been established at all. The reports, beyond a couple of personal opinions, some of which came years later from people who werent even there, show it was a close fight.

 

We agree it was a close fight.
We have gleaned that from the coverage shown .
All newspaper reports on fights that express the writers views of the justice /accuracy of the verdict are personal opinions ,are they not?

What were the NWS No Decs ,if not personal opinion?
Other than Greggains opinion, got any reports that think Hart deserved the verdict?

 

Actually a thorough analysis has not yet been done which would consist of all bay area paps. All we know as of now are results from the Oakland Trib and S.F. Chronicle and the Chronicle write up is from non other than Alex Gregggains who was the referee and sole arbiter of Harts victory!

Yet even this check em all approach would leave us with the words of 1905 white men only.

 

Then, let me amend my statement,and say instead .
In the light of fight reports ,summaries ,and round by round analysis,which indicate a close fight.
Is it likely, that Jack Johnson would have said , " Hart beat me, and beat me good ?"
YES OR NO willl do.

 

Morning Oregonian (Portland, OR) staff correspondent thought that Hart deserved the decision. Although he may have been biased, but still.