Shakur Stevenson is the best boxer in the world

CooperKupp · Jul 18, 2025

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I think he's very talented but, as I said, had he turned pro at the same age Loma did he wouldn't eve be a world champion in one weight class yet, unless he was brave enough to fight for a world title in his 2nd or 3rd fight like Loma did which is highly unlikely and would he have done so in his opponent's country with a home ref and three home judges like Loma did vs GRJ and it was essentially a home fixture for Mexican Salido fighting a Ukrainian in Texas. Of course he wouldn't. Not in a million years

So had Loma turned pro at the same age as Shakur, which gets conveniently ignored by so many, 135 would be BARE minimum his SIXTH WEIGHT CLASS, not his THIRD and he would be a six weight world champion 100% (people can try and argue otherwise but they will fail) not a three weight one and he would've won three of the four belts in his sixth weight class and been robbed of being undisputed in his sixth weight class vs a 20lbs heavier, almost 6'' longer reach gigantic weight bully in said weight bullies backyard with a home ref and three home judges when past his prime at 35 y/o.

How many fighters become undisputed in their sixth weight class or at 35 y/o in their opponent's backyards vs a 20lbs heavier near 6'' longer reach opponent? How many even attempt to do so? Crawford's about to attempt to do it vs a Clenelo who is well past his best and barely any bigger than him but he's a god and as brave as they come for doing so in his own country

And, as said, it would be Loma's sixth weight class bare minimum. It might be his seventh and more had he turned pro even younger

How many win three of the four belts in their sixth weight class, let alone on the road like he did winning them individually vs much or way bigger opponents? But he's a ''hype job'' and Shakur is the best fighter in the sport, for beating Herring, Valdez, and Zepeda

Let's see Shakur try and do that and he will have to go up higher than 147 to at least 154 to be giving away those kind of physical advantages
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Good points. I just don’t see ANYTHING phenomenal about this shakur that would help him out enough to win fights at the top level where he wouldn’t have his height, reach AND weight advantages to fall back on. I think he’s B level and time will show this.

Joeywill · Jul 18, 2025

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I didn't say he would've won a world title at 19 as soon as he turned pro. I believe he could of because he was that talented but that's not what I'm claiming here

He was the world junior champion at 16

And at 20 he won Olympic gold only conceding a combined 13 points in whole tournament (5 fights)

World Amateur gold whilst only conceding a combined 7 points in the entire tournament (5 fights) despite having a broken hand, only conceding 1 point in 3 of his fights, and 2 points in the other 2, including beating Shakur's best win Oscar Valdez 12-1

And European gold whilst only conceding 4 points in the entire tournament (4 fights)

That's absolutely freakish

He won Olympic gold, World Amateur gold, and European gold whilst only conceding 24 points in total across the three biggest major tournaments and he had a broken hand in one of them.

Do you understand how insane that is? That's whilst being an aggressive fighter too

So that's what he was capable of at 20 y/o and he'd only suffered 1 loss in his life then and of course it was the only loss of his amateur career. Shakur suffered 13 losses in the amateurs before turning pro at 19

And Shakur didn't become a world champion until he was 22. He became a three weight champion at 26 but you don't think Loma could've if he turned pro at 19?

A 20 y/o Loma could've easily won a world title given how amazing he was in the amateurs at that age, let alone at 22.

He wouldn't need any seasoning he had way more than enough amateur bouts by then and he was seasoned enough. He could've turned pro at 19 and had 11 pro fights and fought for the world title like Shakur did but he really wouldn't have needed that many
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It's possible that Lomachenko could've won a world title at 20

Good chance

I think Benavidez was around 20 when he won his first

Joeywill · Jul 20, 2025

Ya I take it back Usyk is still the best in the world

Jesse Rodriguez is really good too

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