Shakur Stevenson v Floyd Schofield is Off

It's weird be that my response was actually supposed to attached to a different poster's comment suggesting that Shakur had something to do with Floyd's sickness.

I agree with your comment here. It's unfortunate as this was the biggest platform to date for Floyd. Honestly, I thought it was bit too early, but I don't knock any fighter for pushing for greatness and legacy. I doubt Shakur will circle the block to Floyd to give another opportunity. Well, at least not any time soon. He was necessarily pushing to fight him in the first place given the lack for buzz for the match up.

 

So you are suggesting that no one Shakur has faced was driven to accomplish something in the sport when fighting him.....What was Edwin's purpose in the ring then?......I guess Christopher Diaz wasn't trying to go through Shakur to get his first crack at a world title. I guess Joet Gonzalez wasn't hungry while in his first world title bout vs Shakur, huh? I guess the 2 division world champ Oscar Valdez wasn't serious about wanting to be a unified champion when he fought Stevenson.

Come on man.... How can you say anyone at the world title level isn't hungry and/or motivated to be Shakur, but somehow, Schofield is different?......lol

 

You are getting more and more comical as you type...... You aren't impressing me nor fooling me by listening a bunch of random bouts that clearly are already in the books to claim you "predicted" them to go down as they did......lol.

Hell, the first 2 examples you gave clearly makes me question your quote that you "know your ****...."......lol.

Madrimov was far from Crawford's toughest fight. Not once was Crawford ever in danger of being stopped and/or even going down and we saw Madrimov get rocked 4x by a fighter who was supposed to be 'too small' to hurt him. If you know your ****, explain to me in what round did Madrimov actually control the action of the fight...... I've been waiting on someone to articulate how it is that a man who didn't throw a single combination in the first 6 rounds and got hurt 4x in the last 5 rounds gave Crawford his toughest fight. Y'all act like we didn't see Crawford vs Kavaliauskas or Porter, or even Gamboa......3 fights that gave Crawford much more to deal with than Madrimov. And they actually engaged with Crawford rather than competing not to get stopped......Throwing more feints than actual punches for 10 rounds doesn't impress me much.

And Mr. Edwin giving Shakur his toughest fight...........Shakur who was fighting with one hand. De La Santos clearly had the power to do damage to Shakur, yet he couldn't control the action in the ring regardless of the obvious fact that Shakur wouldn't throw that left hand unless he absolutely needed to. A man that many claim to have no power.... Santos should have just walked him down for 8 rounds.

 

Being that Shakur is only 27 years old.....which in most cases for athletes is the start of you prime years, how does fighting a younger more inexperienced fighter be more dangerous than fighting world champions who were around 30 years of age.

You act like everyone he's fought were in their upper 30s..........Off the top of my head, I believe Herring was the oldest fighter he's faced who was 35/36 when he fought Shakur.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't Santos younger than Shakur?

 

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he missed out Claressa Shields, she's the ugliest of the lot.

 

Yes he corrected me in his reply shields is also ugly

 

Good interview, sounds as if Schofield was never gonna make weight.

Shakur gets a lot of mud thrown at him but hope those that dislike him get an opportunity to view this, he comes across as very wise and respectful young man....

 

Stop being hypocritical. Your entire "opinion" is an assumption. At least I'm basing things on the facts available to use. You saying that a young guy can be dangerous because somehow he's more 'hungry' than the elder opponents. How is that not comical, because when most critics evaluate and give their predictions, they normally give the edge to experience when all other things cancel out. Again, Shakur is 27 years of age. He's not exactly old himself. Trying to use age as a means to argue Schofield is tougher than Shakur's previous opponents doesn't hold water because with the exception of Herring, none of his opponents were on their way out the door. And I checked. Santos is 2 years younger than Shakur. A man who struggled to be productive vs Shakur with a hand injury. Maybe had Santos had more experience, he would have had the IQ of knowing what to do to get the victory that night.....

Schofield hasn't even fought a contender to even evaluate how well he would perform on a much bigger stage. He's never been a main even. Hell, he's only had one fight that was scheduled for 12 rounds. His age is not an advantage. For a man to claim he is so knowledgeable of the sport (to know you ****), I don't know why I have to point out the obvious to you. You know who else knows their ****? Teddy Atlas, Tim Bradley, Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather Sr., even some of Shakur's peers like Devin Haney, and Jamell Herring.......each of those name predicted Shakur to win the fight handily. None of them suggested that Scholfield was more dangerous than any other opponent that Shakur has faced. They didn't say he would wash them as Floyd is talented. No different from Frank Martin fighting Tank Davis.

Now, making a case for size makes more sense. Shakur is a big lightweight. Given his defensive skillset vs the size of his opponents gives him a huge upper hand. Even if one is to believe he has no power, him being bigger gives him a little more impact on his punches vs smaller opposition. But then I'll have to point out that even that notion doesn't work because with the exception of Oscar Valdez & Toka Khan Clary, every opponent Shakur has faced since 2020 have been 5'8 and above.

You were quick to point out I have a lot of assumptions, then respond with a nothing but assumptions. Floyd has more power than Shakur? Based on what. For a man who knows his ****, can you tell me how many guys Floyd has stopped that didn't have a losing record, was stopped before, &/or has lost more than 10 fights. Go look at Shakur's opponents in his first 15 bouts vs Floyd's opponents in his first 15. You'll notice Shakur never fought anyone with a losing record. You'll notice Shakur fought former contenders and/or champions, meanwhile Floyd build his career on journeymen. Floyd had a stretch where he fought Mike Fowler (7-35), Danny Flores (15-22-1), Daryl Hayes (7-15), & Roberto Monreal (10-14)........ Mike Fowler alone has more losses than all of Shakur's opponents combined......... But because Floyd beat up on these guys, he's supposed to be stronger than Shakur?.......Make it make sense.

 

I know it isn't his fault but they might as well scrap him from card instead of wasting time by putting Josh Padley in there with him.

 

I think Shakur is quite good technically. I also think he has more wrinkles to his game than Bivol.

Likewise, I don't disagree that Bivol's resume is better. Nevertheless I'm not sure Stevenson deserves the blame for his inability to entice top opponents.