Shakur Stevenson Vs Vasyl Lomachenko

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  1. UndergroundBoxing

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    I’ve got one for you that’s gonna spark some SERIOUSSSSS debate… Shakur Stevenson steps up to 135 later this year and takes on Vasyl Lomachenko. Who would you be picking?

    That is one mouth-watering fight that excites me massively. I would love to see it. Insane work rates and insane levels of skill would be on show. It’s a 50/50. Would Loma humble the youngster and show a superior IQ or would Shakur solve the Matrix and show he’s the next elite man coming through?

    I can’t pick in this one right now. My guts still telling me Loma right now but I do believe Shakur is the next big thing and future pound for pound king
     
  2. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    maybe shakur because lomachenko doesn't hit that hard and he doesn't have such a good chin but in front of shakur's pen fists you don't know... shakir is not a strong guy... that chin is not solid trust me... and his punch he is weak he needs to face a guy like pitbull cruz or davis... these guys could knock him out
     
  3. makzy

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    Loma isn't elite anymore. Shakur, on the other hand, is the most skilled boxer in the game. Shakur wins by a comfortable decision.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :jaja-no:
     
  5. makzy

    makzy Member Full Member

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    What's so funny about my post?

    The fact that Loma isn't elite anymore? The dude got outboxed by Teofimo Lopez, for god's sake. Embarrassing.

    The fact that Shakur is the most skilled boxer in the game? If you knew anything about boxing, you would not be laughing at this. He is the closest thing we've had to Floyd in years.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is not going to age well. Lopez had crazy power and could keep Lomachenko honest. Lomachenko would simply overwhelm Shakur and outwork him because Shakur doesn't have that kind of prolific power at 130 let alone 135 like Lopez. It's time the Shakur Stevenson hype gets under control, at least for the time being. He is elite and i like watching him but he has more to prove
     
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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think they would split rounds evenly, but Stevenson would get a flash KD or two and win for that reason. Would be a fascinating fight if it happens soon.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma is busy shooting at Russians.
     
  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stevenson doesn't hit especially hard for a 130lber, so I'm not sure his power will carry any better at lightweight.

    Lomachenko, meanwhile, has either dropped or stopped 6 of 7 opponents at the bigger weight of 135lbs. Not bad for a supposedly pitter patter puncher.

    Moreover, other than a flash knock down against Linares, Lomachenko has never demonstrated any deficiencies in the whiskers department (and he took a few clean shots from Lopez, a noted puncher, without any major issues).

    In short, I doubt very seriously that Stevenson drops the Ukrainian standout. The opposite, in fact, is more likely.
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with Loma's chin. I do, however, think his legs are declining and he's more likely to suffer flash KDs due to getting off-balance. Part of his hesitation against Lopez, imo, was his lack of trust about getting in and out of the pocket. He got hurt in the 12th round when he became too brave (and fatigued).

    Stevenson isn't a puncher but I think would catch Loma off-balance at times, more than the reverse would be true. Stevenson has superlative balance; it might be my favorite quality about him.
     
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  11. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not an unreasonable reply.

    Lomachenko was indeed weary of sliding in and out of range against Lopez, but I don't think it was a function of declining quickness/agility (he's no longer at his athletic apex, but he's still plenty quick/bouncy). Recall how his legs kept him out of range of Lopez's heavy artillery throughout much of that fight.

    Rather I think it was Lopez's power coupled with a quick counter-punching trigger that caused the Ukrainian to hesitate. Similarly, I have observed no significant balance issues in Lomachenko that would suggest he's prone to off balance knockdowns. In fact, his footwork is generally superb.

    Personally, I think a Loma-Stevenson fight would likely go to the cards. That said, Loma will chin check Stevenson more than any fighter he's ever faced, and whether he has stout whiskers or not is one of the few remaining questions Stevenson has yet to answer. Likewise, we don't know how the kid responds to adversity---and he'll get lots of it against Loma-- or how quickly he processes information if/when his initial "reads" aren't there.

    Cheers for the good back and forth as opposed to the usual dirge.
     
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  12. Cletis VanDamme

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    In my opinion, Lopez' team studied Lomachenko's approach and they wouldn't let Loma cover every angle like he's used to before throwing actual punches.
     
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  13. Johnny1987

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    Boy do i read some bull**** on here.

    Shakur Stevenson the closest thing we have seen to Floyd in years? That’s dumb. He’s not even close. He isn’t even the most skilled boxer today. Lomachenko is by a mile. Loma is fighting way above his preferred weight and took Teo’s hardest punches clean and most of those in the last round of the fight where he would be at his most depleted. He has stopped pretty much everyone who was a supposed somebody.

    Stevenson has average power at 130, less boxing skill than Loma. He has less experience at 135 if any.

    This one is pretty easy to call.

    Loma by wide UD. Shakur moves well enough to not get stopped on accumulation of punches.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Crawford can't teach him to throw a hook he'll never find that gear. He's great on the line, and usually wins his engagements, he just can't add power to his shots. Unluckily for him and us, he's small, so he won't be fighting Haney, Garcia, Teofimo. Maybe Tank tho.
     
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  15. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Considering Loma would have just been at war and is probably in no shape to fight ima go with Stevenson. But honestly I don’t think Stevenson would take that one. It’s a lose lose either he beats Loma and is shamed for beating a Ukrainian or he loses to him which is more than likely,