Shane Carwin And Roy Nelson To Coach Next Season Of 'The Ultimate Fighter'

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by afterglow, Jul 14, 2012.


  1. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    I disagree. I believe it was purely, 100% physical. He was far too muscled and too bulky/heavy, and he had NEVER EVER fought more than 4 minutes before, with the vast majority of his fights lasting an average of 1 minute. His body wasn't ready for a fight going into the 2nd or 3rd round, simple. Carwin has always been psychologically/mentally tough, he wouldn't lose heart simply by beating the **** out of Lesnar. He gassed, nothing else.
     
  2. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Maybe. But even though his fights were all short, I'm pretty sure he has more than a couple of minutes' worth of stamina in training. I think it's a little from column A, a little from column B. You can't underestimate the effects of adrenaline and mental stress on the body. It's not a matter of "losing heart", because Carwin will give his best effort all day long (as he showed against JDS.)

    But he was DONE after the first round against Brock. He could hardly breathe. Being on the big stage for the first time and getting all the adrenaline rush of seemingly having everything going perfectly right from the opening bell more than likely has something to do with that.

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  3. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    :rofl God help the people with Carwin he seems in need of training himself
     
  4. Kittikasem

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    Nah, I don't buy that personally. People always focus way too much on the "mental" side of things. Carwin was winning the fight easily, but his body was not conditioned to fight into a 2nd round, he'd never ever done it before and was carrying too much bulk. JMHO. :good
     
  5. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    I agree Kasem. Carwin basically fought the full 5 minutes against Brock and completely gassed. The Lesnar take down in the 2nd if I remember right was a complete mess yet he still got it.

    Never looked like a fighter always carrying way too much and it never brought him any real advantages in a fight.
     
  6. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Indeed. How did Carwin lose so much weight after the Brock fight

    Carwin was a 285 fighter and would cut to 265 lbs. Against Carwin in his last fight he was 254 lbs. A loss of 31 lbs.
     
  7. afterglow

    afterglow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Carwin was about 252 for his first UFC fight, if I remember correctly.
     
  8. PivotPunch

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    The fight is going to be great but I'm afraid Nelson ends up with brain damage if he continues to take that amount of punishment. Arlovski beat him down JDS destroyed him, Werdum and Mir did and even Crocop hit him with a good amount of punches and when he gets beaten its always in brutal fashion because his chin doesn't allow him to get stopped which results in him getting beat down for 15 minutes.He really needs to go down to 205 after this fight