Shane Mosely: De La Hoya Is Better Than Mayweather...

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Oscar took on tougher comp but came up short most of the time you don't get credit for that. If that was the case Zab Judah would be an ATG he took on tough comp but lost most of the time as well.

    That wasn't PBF's best weight he wasn't big at 147 and tiny at 154. Oscar was the bigger man and still PBF beat him easily that's what you fail to realize. PBF isn't unbeatable, I already told you fighters who would have beaten him but Oscar simply isn't up to the task far too flawed not good enough and lost too many big fights including one to PBF. Why in the hell do I think all of a sudden if they were the same age Oscar would beat PBF? Oscar's same flaws are still always going to be there for PBF to exploit.
     
  2. Pimp C

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    154 was his 5th weight class he has never looked good there despite that he still never lost a fight there. WTF are you talking about?
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    In a lot of those situations he actually deserved the nod. Sure Oscar might not have the pretty egg behind his wins but that's not everything like the toxic cult of Mayweather fans like to believe. Only a great fighter could have done what Mayweather has but only a hero worshipping fanboy will deny that clever manoeuvring and politics also played a big role in his remaining undefeated. The greatest fighters of all time all have losses, and while there's greats who have retired undefeated there's always a question mark as why that egg is there(I say this as a big Calzaghe and Marciano fan) Mayweather wouldn't be undefeated going through Oscars resume and Oscar was at his best as a WW - Not MW or JMW.

    Mayweather isn't unbeatable even in his own era as most of the bigger fights didn't happen when they should have. He's an ATG and HOF but he's not as flawless as his fanboys like to make him out to be and the case for his being the best of his generation isn't as set in stone as some would like to think. Very good arguments can be made for other fighters, most notably Pacquiao. Of course his fanboys are too one track minded and biased to hear anything that isn't worshipping the scrotum of their hero.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    154 was Oscars 5th weight class too dummy. Do you even think before posting this fanboy nonsense?
     
  5. Pimp C

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    A case for Pac can't be made he lost to a faded EM and never beat JMM clearly he lost to PBF and Horn FFS. WTH are you talking about? Anyone with common sense has PBF as the fighter of the era ESPN the Ring have already spoken. Also what other fighter can there be a case made for being the best fighter of the era? I'd love to hear that one LMFAO!
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Oscar is bigger than PBF dummy! He can fight at 154 more naturally than PBF can. Do you even think before posting such stupid ****? PBF fighting at 154 was like Oscar fighting at 160, difference is PBF is just better than Oscar so he could handle fighting at a weight he had no business at unlike Oscar at 160. Oscar was always one weight class bigger than PBF.:deal:
     
  7. African Cobra

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    Oscar studiously avoided Azumah Nelson at 135 pounds so please don’t give me this hogwash that he ducked no one. He studiously avoided Winky Wright and Vernon Forrest at 147-155 pounds.
     
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  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    See. Like I said you're a simpleton who wears fanboy goggles if you can't at least SEE the case for Pac.


    a much smaller fighter in many of the higher weight classes he's campaigned at holding a record for world titles won in different weight classes. The Mayweather fight was a farce and it should have happened years prior, that said it wasn't so one sided that an argument couldn't be made for Pac if happened when it should have. Regardless as to whether or not Floyd had his number than it could very well be that Floyd is better than him h2h but that doesn't necessarily mean that Pac can't be the better talent(for the aforementioned reasons)

    Do you lack the capacity for critical thinking and honestly think the word of ESPN or Ring are gospel truths?
     
  9. African Cobra

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    Very true and it pains Oscar the fraud to this day.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Maybe he did. He certainly didn't duck and wasn't maneuvered as much as Mayweather that's for sure.
     
  11. African Cobra

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    This was not prime Mayweather. Prime Mayweather never fought at 147 or 155 pounds because his body had started to breakdown.
     
  12. Pimp C

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    ESPN and the Ring hold more cache and credibility than anyone here.:deal: What they say will go down in history what we say and think is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. By them ranking PBF higher is what will be remembered an go down in the history books for future generations to learn about this era. Pac is the second best fighter of the era which is no shame in it but he's simply not the best he has too many loses and a H2H loss to PBF. The reason why the fight didn't happen earlier was because of Pac, Roach admitted it in a video I have posted numerous times here. They didn't want testing, the same type of testing Pac did to fight Rios he wouldn't do for PBF. Funny how that works. Lastly, Roach Pac's own trainer stated that PBF was the best fighter of the era.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    But it was his 5th and not his best weight class. Oscar never did anything of substance at 160, he got a gift against Sturm and was stopped by Hopkins. All that yapping about size for your hero.. and yet you can't even see the argument for Pac being the better fighter. MUH Mayweather. Grow up dude...
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

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    Why even bother posting here and discuss the sport if you aren't able to form your own opinions and arguments and instead parrot what others have said? In your world everything is Pro-Mayweather and he's never done anything wrong in career or life.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Pac lost PBF didn't end of discussion. Stay bitter dude.
     
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