Against De La Hoya. The same time the allegations came up. Look how massive he looks. Almost like Vargas did when he fought DLH. This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected
I never said Erratic hates Shane, Relentless, that's not the issue! Facts are that Mosley faces Cotto in six weeks time, the Balco issue is brought up now and Erratic Behaviour started this thread. Erratic is not to be accused of starting a thread based on news first published elsewhere but the fact that he would like Cotto to win and having started this thread NOW are not disconnected by any means - B'sides anybody can alledge anyone else is not making sense... Since both ESB Champions Erratic and now you Relentless are saying that I am not making sense, I give you the benefit of the doubt and will give it a rest ( on the 2003 roids issue and on Mosley's legacy, not on the Cotto - Mosley confrontation).
****in cheater dude.... The guy who gave Mosley the roids went on to work with Winky.. Wonder if Winky is in on it. "Mosley said he and Hudson parted ways one fight later, after Mosley lost the Winky Wright in March 2004. Hudson eventually went to work with Wright."
IMO Roids don't help boxers. Who as ever looked really good in a fight and failed a drug test afterwards? I can't remember maybe there a some fighters but I think of one. I think roids can obviously help athlete's to a certain extent. Before Dwain Chambers (100 meter athlete) got busted Micheal Johnson was saying he looked really heavy with too much muscle. Anyway he blew a big lead in the relay where Great Britain were winning, later was found out taking THG (a new designer steriod). The point is he looked over muscled and too bulky and that was one of his worst years as an athlete. Go Figure.
Vargas looked good for 4-5 rounds before being stopped and did better against DLH than most fighters had previously done with the exception of Mosley. James Toney also looked great against Ruiz. Mayorga did'nt look good against DLH. Mosley didn't look good against DLH. Roy Jones looked good too. Who else been caught taking roids?
I am new to this board. But here are my thoughts on this. I have posted this elsewhere. Here is my take on the whole steroids question looming over Mosley. And this is why I believe Mosley's situation is very much different from Barry Bonds and Marion Jones. It all has to do with intent. And evidence of intent. *Mosley intent was not to cheat. He was looking to obtain legal substances, on the recommendation from his trainer. At that point in 2003, BALCO was not known world wide as a steroids hotbed. It was, in his mind, a nutritional company. Also Mosley received a list of banned substances from the Nevada Athletic Commission, making sure that he was not using anything illegal. Also after testifying in front the grand jury. Mosley was the only athlete ,out of those who testfyed, to take a lie detector test, that he passed, explaining that he was not trying to cheat. Those results were submitted to the commission and the media. *Mosley relationship with BALCO is only with this 1 incident. While Bonds and Jones have years of association with BALCO. There is no evidence or link beside his $1500 check and one time visit. *Mosley has never tested positive before or since this incident. *Mosley made an immediate statement explaining himself. While Bonds, Jones, and others have danced around the questions. In my mind the only thing Mosley is guilty of is being too trusting of his team. He probably should have done much more research on the substances he was taking. But if you really examine it, none of those things he was taking were considered illegal until after the BALCO raid. The thing that bothers me about this story is why did it take 4 years to come out. We all knew that Shane Mosley explained that he unknowingly used this stuff 4 years ago. So why is it a big story now.....maybe specifcs. But most inside the situation already knew the specifics. In my mind, Mosley is not getting a free pass, he is getting a chance to explain himself, and he is very believable and the evidence supports it.
It's a fact that the only evidence there shows a one time relationship. You didn't highlight the part about the check.
It's tough, he is a good guy, yet, seems to be a nice guy who can be taken advantage of. I hope it was the one time thing but I want to give Shane the benefit of the doubt. One other thing, The DLH 2 fight was seen as a career make or break for shane so he very well may have knowingly took the stuff trying to get the extra "edge". I think it raises the larger issue, just how many athletes are not competing "on the level"? It is really sad.