--Shane Mosley and New Boxing Fans--

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Feb 16, 2010.


  1. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    I dont know how you can look bad shutting out your opponent 12-0 (vs Collazo)
     
  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even if he need steroids it was because he fought at higher
    weight class, now he is much more matured and he doesn't need
    steroids (if ever any) to go toe to toe with much younger top
    guys in the division.

    As Oscar ... the faded old Oscar gave the same split decision to
    Floyd as the prime Oscar to Mosley ... what is your point here?

    Winky is much bigger than both Mosley and Floyd,
    I really doubt that comparing Floyd to Winky has any sense
    I would give Winky 7:3 chances in beating Floyd at 154.

    That totally not proving any points, Cotto is good boxer himself
    he is no bum who don't know how to box. Maybe he is not
    as good boxer as Floyd but he definitely is better pressure fighter
    than him, and that mostly troubled Mosley in their fight.

    I'm not saying Floyd is not capable of beating Mosley or
    that Mosley have big chances to win but your reasoning and
    arguments are terrible.
     
  3. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Sure did...by doping!:rofl
     
  4. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think its the other way around, the floyd boys are overrating him to seem like a better opponent then pacquiao.
     
  5. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Dougie expressed my feelings well today in his Massive Monday mailbag:


    I can’t believe how many fans and members of the media are sleeping on Sugar Shane. It’s sad. It really is.

    Dude, Floyd didn’t want this fight. He was forced to take it because it’s the only fight (outside of the Pacquiao showdown) that would guarantee him $15-$20 million-plus and it’s the only bout that fans and the media (including his apologists) would accept in lieu of the Pac-Man fight. Mayweather’s side wanted an immediate rematch clause in the contract. What does that tell you about his confidence going into this bout?

    Mosley WANTED this bout. He practically begged for it last year. Now he’s got it and you MUST KNOW that he’s already training like a demon in Big Bear, Calif. He can’t wait to put hands on Floyd.

    Let me make this plain for you and all the other doubters out there. There’s nothing that Mayweather can put on Mosley that will keep him off him. I’m not saying that Mayweather can’t make Shane miss and counter with accurate shots. But how many punches will he dare to let go with? How many exchanges will he risk with Mosley? How ACTIVE will Mayweather be?

    That’s the question, my friend. Why don’t you do a little research and check out CompuBox stats on Mayweather’s average total punch output per round at welterweight/junior middleweight and compare it with the welterweight average and Mosley’s average at 147 pounds? You might find that Mayweather is well below the welterweight average (although very accurate), while Mosley is a little ahead of it. Who works harder? Who hits harder? Who tries harder? Who’s going to get the judges attention in this fight?

    Food for thought.
     
  6. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Mosley has always been one of my all time favorite fighters, but I just don't see him beating Mayweather....
     
  7. PorkChopExpress

    PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe Full Member

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    Ugh. If you're such a veteran why are you asking this question?

    People have their favorite fighters. People know anything can happen in a fight and people know that Sugar Shane has been in the upper echelon of fighters for over a decade now.

    If you can tell me one fight of this scale, in the history of boxing where EVERY single person put aside the gut feeling they have or the bias toward their favorite fighter and picked the guy who end up winning, then you can all of a sudden act surprised as to why people are divided on a fight between 2 of the best in the division.

    If you can't see why people are giving Mosley a chance, then it's you that looks new to boxing dude.

    I couldn't imagine a more boring lead up to a fight than everyone agreeing on a boxer.

    Short answer to your question: They are fans of Shane.
     
  8. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Although I believe I said this exact thing when he fought Margartio.
     
  9. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coo you followed boxing for 15 years
    I was fighting 14 years ago in philly norfolk ny twice a month as a amature stop acting like you belong to the boxing community because you watch.

    Give an example of any champion getting destroyed in the past decade like that. Take a good look at compubox and take a good look at what happened in the fight then take a real good look at the man he beat to get there and tell me you seen this before. I havent since Tyson became champ and I was 3 years old when that happened.
    something is special about mosley
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What?!

    Read my post. About 15 years.

    Yes, he was spectacular wasn't he.

    No, I'm almost sure he was in his twenties when he moved up to WW. :roll:

    He jumped from 135 to 147 to fight a couple of journeymen before he foought Oscar, he then fought a couple more journey men before losing to Forrest. Shanes resume at 147 is ONLY good because Oscar is in it.

    Get his balls out of your mouth. Shane was a world class fighter, who's career was derailed by Forrest, and stomped on by Winky, who has a dark cloud hanging over the DLH II win.

    "Speedy slugger" I like to call his style that. At the lighter weights and in his prime, he relied mostly on speed and strength, rather than text book boxing with power.

    I'm not going to argue that. Mosley has balls no doubt. I like Mosley a lot, I just don't overrate him. Don't take me wrong, Prime for Prime Mosley vs PBF is a toss up for me with Floud probably having the edge.

    But because I rate him high in his prime doesn't mean I have to overrate him now. Mosley is a shell of what he once was. It further proves my theory that this era is the weakest in the last 30 years.


    WTF are you talking about??? Mosley is not the same young speedy slugger he once was, he has slowed down considerbaly.

    Not true. Not always.

    You're stuck in the 90's bro. Move on.


    I appreiate his skill, but I'm realistic. Sorry to burts your bubble, but hey, Mosley is older, and is not in his prime.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :roll:

    You should follow boxing closer.

    Hopkins TKO over Trinidad MW unification
    De La Hoya TKO over Mayorga WBC Jr. MW
    De La Hoya UD over Castillejo Jr. MW title
    Julio Cesar Chavez TKO over Chapo Rosario


    Theres many.

    I may not be a pro boxer, or an amateur boxer, but my dollars go to them everytime I watch their fights religiosuly and buy their merchandise.
     
  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He actually looked really good in that fight. I was very impressed with Mosley. He was actually outboxing the pure boxer.
     
  13. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    The words "overrated" and "Mosley" do not belong in the same sentence. Mayweather can hide no longer. Mosley derails the Money Train in May.
     
  14. northstar

    northstar Member Full Member

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    Im glad you pointed that out. Against collazo mosley found it difficult to hit him cleanly with power punches.As a result, he did not load up as much and beat collazo with effective counter punching and activity. Where as against cotto, he didnt find it as difficult to hit him with power punches; thus causing him to sit down on his punches more. Adversely this made it easier for cotto to counter him.

    If mosley approaches his fight with mayweather with relatively the same mentality he had in the collazo fight (of not pressing for the ko); he will find more success.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It's true. Mosley has been severely overrated because of the Margarito win. The fact The Ring jumped him from completely out of the P4P ratings into the top 5 or whatever it was was pure comedy. The fans are doing what fans do. Eating, drinking, sleeping, and shitting HYPE.