--Shane Mosley and New Boxing Fans--

yes floyd tec very strong but does not have physical stregth of winky or vernon for that mater even oscar an he couldnt impose his will on those guys an let them except odl dictate distance an pace . an with floyd a first class boxer no doubt but we will find out how good of fighter he is and imo shane will impose his superior stregth an will an make floyd fight giving him very good chance to win. sugar shane mosley is not over rated he is first class fighter who has always faught anybody

 

I'm picking Mayweather to win this one but I'll be rooting for Mosley.
Picking Mayweather based off his jab and disciplined nature, both things which give Mosley one hell of a night.

There are still things Mosley can do though, he is much faster in his age than DLH was when DLH fought PBF. Power and speed aren't everything but they can be enough or almost enough when a fighter has not quite had to face them yet or often. Shane will land some good shots. I don't think PBF will be running and potshotting Shane all night because Shane WILL make PBF fight. PBF imo will probably do some amazing work on the inside and off the ropes but I don't see a replay of DLH/PBF.

 

I feel you bout were the dollars go
however your **** flawed them cats were past it. Mosley stole the Crown froma Prime Fighter. Trinidad was the only Destruction almost Prime but then again Trinidad had no Business fighting a CAREER Middleweight he was way outta his Leauge
Only good example is MIKE taking the Crown.

I would give it to Oscar to but thats my Point Oscar woop these champs non prime but still This meant it was something special about Oscar Right?
Oscar taking Mayorga Crown just made me say he was special like mosley

 

lets keep this professional please?





Read my post. About 15 years.



Yes, he was spectacular wasn't he.



No, i'm almost sure he was in his twenties when he moved up to ww. :roll:

you are right, i am mistaken.

he jumped from 135 to 147 to fight a couple of journeymen before he foought oscar, he then fought a couple more journey men before losing to forrest. Shanes resume at 147 is only good because oscar is in it.

every fighter has their joureyman, its a natural part of the business. It is how a fighters separates himself from the b class. But he also fought tough competition as well - so i still dont get your point. His resume at 147 is better than floyds even with losses.

get his balls out of your mouth. Shane was a world class fighter, who's career was derailed by forrest, and stomped on by winky, who has a dark cloud hanging over the dlh ii win.

part of defining greatness is how you bounce back from losses. Its not like he lost to bums. You miss the point that people respect shane for taking dangerous fights and not necessarily looking for the safest route. peope respect teh fact that as an old man he is still fighting and beating younger fighters. Going back for rematch is what old school fighters did, so in some ways fans view shane as throw back fighter, pure boxing, not commercialized. In dlh 2, conteroversial yes, many fights are, but dont blame shane for the fact that the judges unanimously preferred his body punching to oscars pitty pat jabs and rights which he did outland in...this is not the amatuers. The judges liked shanes power punches. The only issue i have with the second fight is the steriods.

"speedy slugger" i like to call his style that. At the lighter weights and in his prime, he relied mostly on speed and strength, rather than text book boxing with power.

so what's your point? His style is his style and he still dominated. Not every fighter has to be a text book boxer, i dont get your point here. He did what he had to do to ko fighters at the lighter weights. was joe frazier a textbook boxer? The diffrences in styles and personality is what makes the sport.

i'm not going to argue that. Mosley has balls no doubt. I like mosley a lot, i just don't overrate him. Don't take me wrong, prime for prime mosley vs pbf is a toss up for me with floud probably having the edge.

But because i rate him high in his prime doesn't mean i have to overrate him now. Mosley is a shell of what he once was. It further proves my theory that this era is the weakest in the last 30 years.

perhaps i misunderstood your original point, but i am just trying to show why people rate mosely highly. I absolutely agree that shane is far from his prime. I am a shane fan, but in my mind, i wont be surprised to see floyd outbox him, however, old man shane has been inconsistent. The reason why people rate him highly is bc of some his last few performances, you just dont know which shane will show up. At least we know what he is capable of if he focuses.

against vargas, collazo, and margarito he looked world class.


wtf are you talking about??? Mosley is not the same young speedy slugger he once was, he has slowed down considerbaly.

did i say he was anything like his prime? I agree with you on the above. But back to my original point, which also proves your theory below - even an old shan know based on the fact that he still manages somehow to pull out wins, is that an old shane is much better than the best of the young fighters today. Shane is still rated highly on a relative basis.

not true. Not always.

he lost convicniginly when he lost, but its my belief he was still competitiv aside from vernon forrest 1. We may not agree here.

you're stuck in the 90's bro. Move on.

not at all, i just choose to judge a fightr by his whole career to define greatness. But it does not mean his past fights will determine how he will beat floyd. Shanes reputation amongst his followers is based on his lightweight domnation and they followed himn all the way up. I am just trying to explain why people rate him highly


i appreiate his skill, but i'm realistic. Sorry to burts your bubble, but hey, mosley is older, and is not in his prime.

I am realistic as well. I never said that shane will beat floyd. I do think he has a chance he manages to get himself up to the task. If anyone has a chance to beat floyd, its shane based on what he has shown throughout his career and people are hoping that he can return to vintage shane, somewhat like he did versus margarito.

 

Looked bad against Collazo. Wasn't it like 10 rounds to 2 in Mosley's favor. Last I checked Hatton and Berto pretty much fought Collazo even up. Mosley DOMINATED Collazo. Get your facts straight. Mayweather could come in and dominate Mosley, but give Mosley his due, he is the best fighter Mayweather will have ever got in the ring with.

 

I dont think we can say that Mayweather today is a better boxer than both Winky and Forrest who where in their primes when they both fought Shane I dont think we can exactly argue that here.....

What I can say is Mosley has gotten older and yet in his losses those are the only two men who were able to beat him, and lets not also forget Winky was big for being Jr Middle, and since Mosley has moved back down to Welter he has looked sooo much stronger and quicker and over all better.

 

I understand how you feel regarding the Mayorga fight, but lets be honest here cus I felt the same about that performance, especially when you do consider what Trinidad and DLH did do to Mayorga you forget that Mayorga in his fight with Mosley did not come out being the traditional Mayorga we have seen.

in the Mosley fight, Mayorga simply did more boxing and Showed Shane respect during that fight, he was moving his head more and using more of a boxing style rather than a balls out brawling style as he did in the DLH and Tito fights.

Giving Mosley a harder target to hit and a new look that Shane likey wasnt expecting. you watch the DLH Mayorga fight first round, Mayorga walks out to Oscar as if its a brisk walk in the park and as if he is going to just throw one shot and the fight will be over, before he could realize it Oscar hit him with a thudding left hook that sent him down, and the fight was basicly over from there Oscar never allowed him to recover.

So saying that the Mosley performance in that fight should be any indicator in this fight is kinda insane dont you think? especially when Mayorga gave him another stlye in that fight.

we will find out for sure come the 1st of may....