Shane Mosley H2H - Where Do You...

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rank him?

    Great chin (Which he's held all the way up to junior middle) Great power, blinding handspeed. Mosley went 31-0 at lightweight, almost all of his fights ending via KO.

    Just how highly do you think of Mosley down at lightweight?
     
  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    H2H I think several greats would beat him, but due to his physical advantages he'd give everyone who fought at the weight problems.

    I could see him beating greats like Montgomery or Jack.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    On the flip side, while Jack and Montgomery would be there to hit more often than not, I'm not sure how he'd have reacted to their strength and power, and whether or not he'd have switched up his tactics.

    Otherwise I agree with Cobra, he has all the physical tools to give anyone a tough fight, but not the technical skills to beat the best of the best.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Mosley was a very good lightweight. He struggled with the weight all the way through his reign more or less. He recently said he was always a natural welterweight who fought at lightweight, especially during the late stages of his reign. I think he would have had a tough time with Duran and others.

    This probably explains why when he moved up and fought at welterweight his handspeed increased by a large margin. He was very quick as at lightweight, but his hands were even quicker after the move up. Rivera, Wise, De La Hoya, Diaz, and Taylor. Those fights he was at the quickest at any point during his career. IMO he peaked around this time as a fighter as well.

    If you watch Mosley's title challenege against Holliday then watch his early welterweight fights you'll be shocked at the difference in speed.

    His resume at lightweight is average although his number of defenses is impressive.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    I'd actually only say Mosley started slowing down toward the end of his LW reign, such as the Holiday fight, when he started to really struggle with the weight and be affected by it. He was clearly slower there than in days past and later after moving up to WW, but in his prime LW days he was blindingly fast, at least as fast as in his WW days.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Not a chance. The Holliday fight was when he won the title. Not at the end of his reign as you said. And Mosley being quicker at lightweight is a complete myth. I let my eyes do the talking rather than logic and a fighter being lighter equates to him being quicker. Mosley was faster at welterweight, no two ways about it.

    I even mentioned the Holliday simply because that was early on in his lightweight reign, when he won the title. Which even gives him some room for no weight making problems. Watch that fight then FWD to his early welterweight days. The speed isn't just slight, it's highly noticeable.

    Their is a poster on here with Mosley on the front cover of the Ring avatar, he doesn't get fooled with the myth either.
     
  7. Robbi

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    Pea. I'm confident I could turn your opinion on this subject. If we watched fights of his early welterweight days and any his lightweight defenses I reckon you would change your mind.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Nope.

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  9. Sweet Pea

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    You were right about the Holiday fight though. My mistake.
     
  10. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    **** he was fast.

    One thing he does have going for him H2H is that there may never have been a lightweight with a better speed/power ratio. He put punches together very well also and a good bodypuncher, and of course the size advantage, which to Pea's earlier comment, I think Shane with his natural size wouldn't have too many problems with the physical strength of either Jack or Montgomery, despite how tank-like they were. Both would give very good fights, but I definitely favor Mosley over the two.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Much quicker against Rivera, De La Hoya, Taylor. MUCH
     
  12. BlackWater

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    Mosley was much better at welterweight. He's still as high ranked lightweight, though.
     
  13. Robbi

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    A man who knows his stuff on Mosley. Quicker hands as well at welterweight.:good
     
  14. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    i totally agree with you that Mosley was much faster at WW than he was as a LW and he hit harder at WW to.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    So is the consensus here that he's better H2H at welter as opposed to lightweight?