Shane Mosley "Miguel Cotto knows how to find way to win, Canelo not so much"

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley is just stating what he believes.
    What he said about Canelo not changing strategies against Mayweather is true. Canelo needed to pick the pace up and cut the ring off, which he doesn't like doing.

    I just think Mosley is overrating the Cotto of today. This Cotto doesn't have the same capabilities or the mindset of the Cotto that he faced.

    I look at it like this, I ask myself can Cotto outbox Canelo at center ring, and that answer is no. I think Canelo is a little bit quicker and faster than he is.
    That will lead to Cotto being forced to come at Canelo, so I ask myself, can Cotto win in a give and take fight, and my answer is no, Canelo will be to strong there where his youth will serve him well.

    Canelo doesn't know what it feels like to get beatdown, Cotto does, and he carries that mindset into the ring with him and there's little doubt in my mind it effects the way he goes about business in the ring.

    Cotto is not going to win a fight running the laterals and flicking a jab that ineffective, it didn't work for Lara and it certainly is not going to work for Cotto.


    Btw, Mosley is a standup person. My brother in law met him at a truck stop. Shane spotted him staring and put a great big smile, nodded and even said hi. Shane then had a great big laugh when my brother in law said to him, "thankyou for kicking Delahoya's butt!"
    Shane Mosley is not a fake, he's the same off camera as he is when he's on.
     
  2. runner_phob

    runner_phob Active Member Full Member

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    For some reason, Cotto didn't find ways to win in his most important fights in the last 6 years. Crippled Martinez doesn't count.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's wilted in every one of his A level fights.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    That's nice and convenient of you to say. That's the nature of the game.

    So what you are actually saying with that post is:

    You're picking Cotto to win, but if Canelo wins, then your analysis and reading of the fighters and match up was incorrect.

    What's with all these people making predictions that cover both outcomes so no matter what happens, they can say they called it or "sort of" called it? Grow a pair, people.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    What do you class as "his A level fights?"

    Mayweather and Pacquiao? Join the club. He lost to the 2 best of the era, so what?
     
  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Finds a way to win?

    Why didnt he find a way to beat Trout....and the other guys that beat him?
     
  7. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can respect May and Pac but what about Margarito Clottey and Trout? Hell a lot of people had Mosley beating Cotto.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley, Margarito, Mayweather, and Pacquiao.
    Cotto officially lost to 3 of those, and he lost to Mosley on my card as well.

    I consider Margarito A level at the time he beat Cotto as he was tearing it up at 147 lbs. He had a razor close loss to Williams who every top welter was avoiding at the time.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Mosley patched things up with Oscar if I remember right.

    Cotto is more versatile than Canelo and didn't take any losses I wouldn't expect Canelo to as well, aside from Trout when Cotto was looking worn and a bit chubby. "Having more gears" is a good way to put it.
     
  10. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo adjusted and choice to be more aggressive against Lara after the first 3 rounds. This gave Lara a lit if problems.
     
  11. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has failed to find a way to win 4 times, canelo once. Plus the fact that canelos only loss was to a guy who cotto also failed to adapt against and beat. Mosley doesn't have much of a point here.
     
  12. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo is bigger stronger and better then Cotto. Cotto is very average @ 154 and higher.

    Cotto would lose every round to Lara...Alvarez beat Lara.

    **** for brains.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have a point there. He didn't look great, but Canelo did adjust against the moving Lara and started going quite a bit to the body which is the right thing to do when the faster moving target does'nt want to fight.
    It was definitely an improvement to the Mayweather fight where he didn't seek to castigate Mayweather's midsection.
     
  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Canelo knows Aslong as he finishes the fight he wins.
     
  15. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Canelo was forced to come forward because he was getting outboxed. Lara continued to Outland him every round and Canelo still struggled to land.