Shannan Taylor V Kostya Tszyu

What reason do you REALLY think Kostya was dodged for?? C'mon mate.. you seem very well opinionated and knowlegable..

Was it sheer co-insidence that DLH stepped up?? NO. DHL was not the best chinned at any weight.

Pernell was a W/W when Tszyu was early in the Pro ranks.. and a JUICE HEAD!!

Chavez beat Taylor at jW/W.. Woopity dog ****.. Meldrick who??

McGirt at W/W.. Hmmmmm??? When did Kostya fight at W/W??

Please ladies, afford me an arguement of any fighter that had a sustained jW/W career on par with Tszyu.

Chavez had a good career at jW/W.... Gota love Don King and Mis-matches.

You have until 2am to provide an REAL arguement against Tszyu at jW/W.. Chop Chop Kiddies..

 

Farkin hell Flamengo. Oscar De La Hoya had an immense chin and you say Meldrick who ? Meldrick Taylor was a special special talent.

An absolute clanger by you here. I'm really enjoying this.

 

Im still waiting for YOU to give a reasonable arguement for Tszyu not being the best JW/W ever. 'Special talent'.... 'Immense chin'...

DLH was not iron chinned mate.. he was dropped in early lightweight fights by fighters of low repore.

 

Meldrick Taylor beat Buddy McGirt at light welter. Name a better result Kostya had.

Chavez beat Taylor, Ramirez, Fuentes, Duplessis, Lonnie Smith, Angel Hernandez, Mitchell, Camacho, Haugen, Alli and Holligan at light welter. They had a combined record of 300 wins 16 defeats ( 7 of them were Alli ) and 6 draws ( i love Don King mismatches too ) oh i omitted Mayweather 34 and 5 , JCC stopped him unlike a certain Tszyu.

None of these light welters floored Chavez. None Stopped him. I say this is a better lw/w record than Tszyu. No Phillips ( crack head ) or Hatton defeats here.

 

Umm.. Err.. Chavez was belted by Tszyu. That tops the entire arguement.

 

5 times. Judging by your comments you obviously haven't watched the Whittaker-Hurtado and Tszyu-Hurtado fights.

Those are great fighters to you? Is that the resume of a TOP30-40 ATG?

Buddy McGirt is a good win but not the superstar name you are searching for. The best "name" on his resume is Azumah Nelson who only fought once above 130 (his loss to Whitaker). Vasquez is indeed a very good win but he was made for Whitaker.

Who did Chavez beat that was even remotely in the same class as Tszyu?
Slick defensive fighters were Tszyu's bread and butter. There is a chance that he could beat the patron God of ESB?
To beat Mosley, Trinidad, Quartey and Oscar at WW he would have to revert to his old style of counter-punching that he showcased in the amateurs against tall boxers.

Here you go

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A 37 year old Vince Phillips at WW

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P4P No.1 Shane Mosley

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Lightweight does not count you only include light welterweight in your argument. Which is lucky because can you imagine Kostya going 9 with Hopkins ? Can you imagine Rafael Ruelas going 9 with De La Hoya ? Nah
forget it and stick to light welter

 

Casamayor are you implying Sturm A fought a prime De La Hoya and B that it was at welterweight ?

You think Vince Phillips is better than Vernon Forrest ? If you are say it, if you don't its irrelevant.

Hatton must be a better Light welter than Tszyu as he made Tszyu quit and beat Phillips !

 

I opted for McGirt over Nelson or Chavez in this argument as he was a natural light welter and welterweight champion.

Can you show me some footage of Pea going down 5 times against Hurtado and then the knockdowns Tszyu suffered against him too ?

 

Thats a **** week arguement- as expected, considering all the GREAT matches being thrown my way for the ill-attempted sulking.

How many times did DeLaHoya fight at jW/W??? $-5.. and ran from Tszyu to fight Pernell in a $$$$ fixed **** up..

Gimme a long term jW/W who surpasses Tszyu, or matches Tszyu at jW/W..

..make it short term.. ANYONE FOR **** SAKES...

KT is the ****ing pinnacle of jW/W's. Deal with it.

 

Have you NOT seen these fights??

And you argue ?? Serious???

 

By that note Hatton is better as he only lost once at light welter to PAc and he made Kostya quit on his stool. And he also beat the other guy who belted Tszyu. By your rules that makes me a winner. Or do you want to take back Tszyus victory against an ancient chavez ? who had already been belted by De La Hoya .

Is there a reason why the oft ducked Tszyu never gave a rematch to Phillips ? Was Phillips scared he would hurt his hands again ?

 

Both Hatton and Tszyu had very very good careers at 140, i'm not questioning that BUT i mo i would say in a battle around 140 or at 140 De La Hoya/Chavez/Whittaker would beat them both.

Flamengo you can't just say "Whittaker/Mosely skipped 140 etc to duck Tszyu" or "they never fought at 140" etc etc. Bernard Hopkins never fought at 168 but head to head in a fantasy fight at 168 imo he would beat Kessler, Froch for example.

 

Not in about 8 years and 15000 beers , i was wondering if there was a link to relevant fights in the debate or just irrelevant ones.

:happy

 

A rematch with Phillips was pushed for over many years. DO NOT DISCREDIT THIS!!!!!!!


Tszyu did not duck him.