Shannan Taylor V Kostya Tszyu

Seriously can you name Tszyu's 3 best wins of his career in your opinion. I'm interested in your views on this.

 

You had better have a word with Casamayor, he said Tszyu was down twice ! I would never say Kostya got a bruised eye either :hey

Do you often ask men out for beers that is 2 different guys in the last couple of hours :bbb

 

Tszyu is highly rated because of the depth of his resume, longevity, accomplishments and boxing skills. He is borderline ATG.
List the 3 best wins for Chavez. Then make a case for him being a TOP30-40 ATG. You can't.

 

You dont take my three seriously already?? Francy Smyth You should take it as gospel, as you expect me to absorb your on uneducated bull****.

 

No mate, Im asking you out for a beer for the sake of you buying a beer and then hearing you shout again...

Take a look at the fight film. You two **** wits are just as dumb as a pair of cops.

 

More world title fights than any other man in history.
More defences than any man in history.
More winning world title fights than any man in history.

Does that cover longevity ? Were they all bums ?

La Porte, Lockridge, Rosario, Ramirez, Whittaker, Taylor, Randall, Haugen, Mayweather twice, Brazier look at his record, and tell me he is not an ATG. Then tell me in what way Tszyu has a better one ?

 

I am fairly sure you are the dumb one here fella. I am absolutely sure you are the one shouting and swearing. Go and watch Kostya again and relax, enjoy, and make sure the curtains are closed. Kostya you are number one yes yes YESSSSSS !

 

With your lame logic, Mundine can also become a true LEGEND. Chavez was under the wing of Don King throughout, being ripped off financially in defence of his own 'single' sanctioned title. If you're dopey enough to believe that the US market and organised match ups are authentic, the I would only assume you are a park bencher.. few others could be so ****ing stupid at this time of night.

You might be short minded enough to constantly argue for the sole reason of learning, but you realy dont understand.

Ask yourself.. Who is the greatest jW/W of all time??

If you suggest the same blokes you argue in favour of, the taken the next door neighbors ***** and place it firmly against your forehead....

Pull hard now...

 

I'm not saying that he has a better resume than Chavez or a better boxing career. What I'm saying is that Chavez doesn't have a "name" win on his resume (an argument often leveled at Tszyu's resume) and yet he is considered a TOP30-40 ATG. Looking at ATG lists I see boxers that were not on Tszyu's level skillwise or resumewise.

 

Of course Whittaker and Mosely for example didn't have a better resume at 140. Riggers and i are saying that IF (ie in a fantasy fight discussion) these fighters fought Tszyu then we believe they would have beaten him. Understand atsch

 

This is not a fantasy discussion.. its become a very hypothetical a discussion.

My reasoning very early in the thread is that Tszyu is the best jW/W I have ever seen..

Throwing in fantasy names, reasons and arguements was your own typical way of dealing with not having a TRUE arguement.

Fwit.. It would have been a nice thing to have a chat and clear the air as leon speaks well of you... was not to be. Oh well. I look forward to more easiy trashed points of wisdom.

Tell me, Oh man of wisdom, all about the career of Frank Flannery... I need some learned words from you.

 

Of course we're talking hypothetical here as Tszyu never fought any of the greats we are mentioning BUT they did fight at or near his weight for some of their careers.
I personally rate Chavez/Whittaker/De La Hoya/Trinidad above Tszyu on an ATG list aswell as a fantasy fight around 140/147 ish weight range. You seem to think Tszyu beats them all which i find amazing but thats your opinion which you are entitled to.

 

Of course we were talking fantasy match ups, how else could it be ? Tszyu retired, they did not fight, therefore the discussion is fantasy.

Someone said, i don't think there is a lww that could beat Tszyu or words to that effect. I said I think Chavez ( how the fuc* can his resume be compared to MUndine ) , De La Hoya, Trinidad, Whittaker etc could. And just so its clear here, Flamingo said Pea gets blown away, ODH has a bad chin, etc etc. Only later did you change the tune and say its about the best light welter ever, which again is not Tszyu.

Casamayor, or Flamengo who on Tszyus record would have beaten Chavez, Mosley, Trinidad or ODH ? My answer is none of them.

Tszyu was a fantastic fighter, good puncher, good skills, but eminently beatable. The fact he did not fight one of the legends around at his time at their peak has to be down to him, as they all fought each other happily.

 

I think here is where you first brought up fantasy match ups. I hate to be a pedant but its actually a flawed career, though floored in this case is very apt.

Oh and its daytime here, you are the bloke arguing through the night not me, which might explain why you forgot what you were arguing about.

 

So you can say with some authority that KT never ducked a rematch with Phillips but than say Mosley/Whitaker/ODLH ducked KT?

Gimme a break.

We know you love KT and so do all of us, but listen to facts and not your heart.