Shannon Briggs (prime) vs Deontay Wilder, who takes it?

Which is why Wilder's been stopped so many times in nearly 40 pro fights?

 

The only decent fighter on Wilders resume is Bermaine and he couldn't stop him.

Briggs wasn't prime when he lost to Wilson.

Not that Wilder can't win but if he did a decision would be more likely than a early KO imo.

We just don't know how good Wilder is at this point, even after nearly 40 fights as he hasn't stepped up yet.

 

Oh my, that is a funny point you just made right there.

 

Yes. We get that Wilson was fringe. He also nearly stopped the solid Izon. Wilder was steered clear of dangerous guys like Wilson on the way up, what about this are you failing to understand? He wouldn't been above losing to someone like that in his developmental stage either(as evidenced by his nearly being KTFO by Sconiers who is FAR inferior to Wilson.

Yeah Wilder stops Briggs faster than Wilson did.. Based on what exactly? Other than your fanboy loyalties? Wilder has gone deep with Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, shot Arreola, Szpilka and nearly 5 rounds with Washington. Briggs went 12 with Klitschko, Foreman, Ibragimov, more or less 12 before stopping a prime White Wolf(not the shot version that Wilder fought) 10 with Botha, McCline and of course was stopped in the 5th against Lewis in a fight that he had success in. Briggs for the most part has hung in with world level operators, but you're confident that Wilder stops him in under 3 rounds? Get real fanboy!

 

Well ... Briggs wasn't on PEDs when he lost to Wilson. He started to "inflate" not too long after.

The question is when was Briggs' "prime?" When he got a gift win over a 50-year-old Foreman? When he got knocked cold by Lennox Lewis? When he was losing to guys like Sedrick Fields and Jameel McCline?

Frankly, I'd take the younger, unbeaten hot prospect Briggs who seemed to have zero problem with stamina and had excellent boxing skills over the guy who added about 80 pounds of juice to his frame and couldn't breathe most nights.

The problem is THAT younger, faster, sleeker Briggs also folded against Wilson.

There's no version of Shannon Briggs I'd take to beat Wilder. Briggs wasn't that good in any of his incarnations.

 

Just another guy who chooses to bury his head in the sand and ignore reason when it comes to Wilder... Very stubborn individual, I've gone in circles with him and he just can't see logic or reason even when you're practically clobbering him over the head with it.

 

Based on the fact that a young, talented, skilled, fast, hard-punching Briggs with 25 wins under his belt got wasted in three rounds by Darroll Wilson.

That's what I base it on.

I don't see Briggs stopping Wilder because no one has. So why should it be Briggs? Based on all his KOs over whom exactly? Marcus Rhode?

Please.

 

Briggs was tough with power but not too smart .He was easy to hit and brawled when he didn't need to .I see Briggs fighting a dumb fight face first forcing wilder back with his strength and walking into a big shot getting hurt taking more shots and going down for the count.not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

I don't even know who you are. Why on earth would I pick an unbeaten heavyweight champion who has knocked out all by one person he's faced in nearly 40 fights to LOSE to Shannon "freaking" Briggs?

I'm not burying my head in anything. It's common sense.

 

It's true that Briggs at his best wasn't that good but neither is Wilder. Just look at the state of him vs the soccer hooligan, flailing wildly putting himself out of position, no balance whatsoever, backing away in straight lines with his chin high in the air...That has Briggs KO1 written all over it.

 

Briggs wasn't that good I agree,

Fact is, we all don't know if Wilder is better or worse than prime Briggs (Roids or not) because he hasn't stepped up yet.

 

Definitely prime Briggs.

Briggs has the whiskers to take any shot from Deontay, and he is far more skilled and would win a wide decision or stop Deontay late.

 

Wilder has already stepped up to the 'Shannon Briggs level' and beaten that level of fighter.

Wilder needs to step up to the Anthony Joshua level of fighter.

Briggs "aint" on Joshua's level. Never was.

 

What we do know

1. Both Haye and Wlad knocked Wilder out in sparring. Wlad knocked him out with a jab.
2. He has never stepped up for a reason, and the evidence of your own eyes tells you its because he is actually a very poor fighter.

So erm, Yes Briggs beats the above.

 

Just going to keep repeating yourself and ignoring clear and concise analysis that goes above and beyond your wikipedia/boxrec peeking?

You aren't basing it on anything. I just highlighted that it's unlikely based on the fact that Briggs usually hangs around with world level fighters and that Wilder has gone deep with fighters who aren't particularly durable since he's moved up in class. Wilder might well win a UD against the lethargic and inconsistent Briggs, but he isn't above losing to him either.