Shannon Briggs (prime) vs Deontay Wilder, who takes it?

That's open for debate. You could be right but we won't know until Wilder steps up more than just Bermaine.

 

Jimmy Ellis knocked out Muhammad Ali while sparring in the 1960s. I'll leave it at that.

 

Alright. But you're also using the Wilson lose against him, and think it's a foregone conclusion that Wilder does a better job or at the very least produces a similar result. The flaws in your analysis were already highlighted in several posts, carry on being a dense and repetitive fanboy though.

 

Hey fan boy you have not debunked my second point

The evidence of your own eyes and how he performs against his opposition. He looks terrible, every fight. He fought a Polish football hooligan, and took him 9 rounds to stop him, a Polish doorman just stopped him in 4.

Wake up fan boy.

Teddy Atlas destroyed Wilder in his analysis of him.

 

I just told you what I based it on. I watched Briggs' whole career while it happened. I've watched Wilder's while it's happened.

Briggs would never have beaten Wilder.

 

Every fighter "dreams" of winning a world title and knocking everyone out. Oh to look 'that terrible."

Watch "prime" Briggs against Sedrick Fields and get back to me.

 

Teddy Atlas. Jesus Christ ... the guy who picked AGAINST Wlad Klitschko nearly every time before each of Wlad's 19 successful title defenses in a row ... based on Atlas' analysis? That Teddy Atlas?

Atlas is so great at breaking down fights and fighters ... people used to joke that you should bet on the other guy every time Atlas tried to make a big fight prediction on FNF.

Atlas is a clown.

 

Oh yes to struggle like hell against a Polish football hooligan.

And then that same hooligan is brutally stopped by an overweight part time Polish boxer in 4.

You were here telling people that Artur was in Deontays top 3 best wins

He is an utter bum.

If you were to face bum after bum and bum you would be undefeated too with all KO wins. Fool fanboy.

 

Reading comprehension not your strong point fanboy?

Analysis is something Teddy is good at.

Predicting boxing matches however is not.

Get the difference between the two bees wax? Or do you want me to explain in ghetto for you?

One is in the past and one is in the future.

 

So Atlas sucks at predicting outcomes ... so why on earth would you bring him up when trying to determine who would win a matchup between a prime Briggs and Wilder?

That's not analyzing something that's already occurred. It's envisioning what would've happened. Something he laughably sucks at doing.

By the way, Teddy Atlas once upon a time trained Briggs, and Atlas got fired. Because Atlas sucked at training fighters, too. They all fired him.

Atlas is a good self-promoter. If you take him at anything more than that, you're an idiot.

Don't bring Atlas up when you're trying to make a point. It makes you look as stupid as he looks.

 

Wilder knocked that Polish Hooligan unconscious and sent him on a stretcher to the hospital. And Szpilka couldn't fight for more than a year.

Which guy would you rather have been that night? Wilder or Szpilka?

Your examples are terrible.

 

How is that a bad example? Wilder struggled in that fight, the end result is completely moot. Are you really this ****ing dense? Every time a valid point is brought up you do your damn best to deflect, twist or outright ignore it. The point that's being made here is that Wilder has struggled with, been hurt by guys who are all worse than Briggs. He's not above losing to him as you've very poorly tried to suggest while ignoring every argument, angle that's been thrown your way.

 

The end result isn't moot if he sent the guy to freaking hospital after caving his head in.

Wilder beats everyone he faces, scores crushing KOs over all but one of them, and you don't like how he appeared before all those KOs ... so you say Briggs WINS?

That's the dumbest freaking thing I've ever heard.

Shannon Briggs? The guy who got cut against Darroll Wilson and folded up in three rounds? The guy who lost to clubfighter Sedrick Fields? The guy who struggled to get a gift draw with a fat Frans Botha? The guy who got brain damage from Vitali's jabs and lost every round to him?

That Briggs?

Wilder caves in the head of Shannon Briggs and sends him to the hospital, too.

For all this nonsense you guys have been spouting, some of you may be too young to remember that when Shannon Briggs was coming up, everyone wasn't too high on him because he reportedly got stopped in sparring by a number of guys in New York. And they weren't world champion heavyweights, either.

No version of Briggs beats Wilder.

None.

Young Briggs. Old Briggs. Skinny Briggs. Juiced Briggs. On a jet ski. In a restaurant. At a liquor store in Alabama.

No place, no time, nowhere does Briggs beat Wilder.

 

Do I have to hammer the proverbial nails into your dense ****ing skull? Seriously... Yes Wilder KTFO Szpilka, he also struggled with him for almost 9 full rounds prior. The fact that Wilder has struggled or looked poor against almost all of his cherrypicked defenses is not ****ing moot, it's a valid and important observation when discussing this fantasy matchup. Wilder has won all of his fights yes, but has not looked impressive or unbeatable while doing so... If you're getting busted up by Duhaupas, caught and buzzed by Molina, getting outboxed by Szpilka and Washington over significant stretches... Then prime Briggs while flawed has a good chance against you... If there's one thing that can't be denied about him it's his power and finishing ability.

The Wilson stuff has been discussed to death in this thread, you chose to ignore the observations and points that were mentioned to and spam the same recycled drivel over and over again.

Stupid? Not even humoring the possibility of Briggs winning this? That's pretty STUPID and one track minded given what's said above and throughout this thread. I on the other hand and a couple of others in this thread can totally see a scenario where Wilder jabs and moves his way to a decision win after a slow and lethargic Briggs blows his load early.