Shannon Briggs vs Floyd Patterson

I'm don't think Patterson is much smaller than Darroll Wilson who laid Briggs out cold with a single left hook. And Floyd was millions times better boxer than Wilson was

 

I think Briggs gets too much credit on this forum. Especially for a guy that got KTFOed by 5'11" glass cannon Darroll Wilson, got insane gift against 49 y.o. George Foreman and got beaten by 9-9 (went on to 22-37 record) Sedrek Fields while being in his prime

 

I wouldn't say Briggs had cast iron chin

This content is protected

It was better than it looked against Wilson or against non-puncher Botha who hurt him badly couple of times, but far from cast-iron

 

size is a greatly overestimated factor in these discussions. briggs is known for being beaten up to comical extents. he has nothing for patterson.

 

Not sure how you missed the could’ve part which he literally capitalized.

 

This is a mismatch. Briggs stops him early.

 

You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "could". Liston could undeniably knock out anyone in the first round. It's a faint possibility, but one nonetheless.

 

My man Shannon is getting sold cheaply here... time to set the record straight.

Sure, Briggs wasn't the most polished fighter ever, but he was a fast and heavy puncher. A guy with 80%+ KO rate, with 30+ 1rst round KO sure must pack some firepower.

Maybe Briggs didn't have the best chin ever, but considering that Foreman broke his nose and was still unable to KO him, I would dare to say that Briggs had a decent chin.

Thus... Briggs is bigger, taller, with more reach, carries serious punching power, has decent endurace and enough touughness.

On the other side we have Patterson, a glorified LHW who got decked seven times by Johannson and when he crossed paths with Liston (an aggresive big puncher like Briggs) got demolished in the first round ... TWICE !.

Furtheremore, Patterson lasted 12 round versus Ali not because endurance, but just because Ali DIDN'T WANT the figh to end early. Ali was enraged because Patterson trash talked him before the fight. Ali wanted to humilliate and punish Patterson for as long as possible and therefore didn't go for a quick KO.

Thus, Briggs is clearly money here. Sure, Patterson is going to look pretty, moving and dancing a lot around Briggs while doing his peekaboo thingy for a while.
But once Briggs catches him it is sweet dreams, Floyd.

 

I'll repeat, Liston gets disrespected here as much as Patterson gets disrespected.

Liston is in my top 10 ATG list, eighth behind Ali, Louis, Holmes, Johnson, Marciano, Foreman and Frazier. And ahead of a whole bunch of people that were mentioned as him having no chance to KO in the first round.

 

Floyd unfortunately goes out early, similar to the first Ingo fight perhaps.

 

You will note that my prediction said IF (again one of those all caps words) it goes past the fourth round I think Floyd can win a decision.

Getting past the fourth round certainly might be problematic for him.

My main point is that some of these imaginary Patterson matchups here seem to constantly disrespect the man. He didn't have the jaw or the size to deal with the real top echelon ATG in anything but a given occurrence on a given day scenario, but he's either in or knocking on the door of my own Top 25 heavyweights list. And he's one of my favorite fighters ever.

 

The problem with Floyd is that regardless how good he was, every time he crossed paths with an ATG he got badly blasted.

And it is not like he was beaten in a competitive fight. All the opposite: Floyd was beaten in catastrophic fashion.

Liston demolished him twice in less time than it takes me to log in the forum.
Ali toyed mercilessly with a helpless Floyd for 12 long rounds.
Even Johannson (not exactly ATG material) decked him seven times in one single bout.
Seven times.
Just.let.it.sink.

Therefore, since most of the fantasy match ups over here are between or against ATG, it is just logical Floyd is usually seen like the perennial underdog.