Shavers Or Lyle??

Lyle imo was clearly better h2h for me. He could get caught but for me he is the better fighter. It doesn't go 6 rounds either way

 

Lyle by a margin...

 

Lyle. Shavers probably hit harder but Lyle was a better boxer, had better stamina and was more durable. It generally took a rated fighter to beat him, whereas on a given night Shavers could lose or draw with lesser fighters. And he actually KO'd Shavers when they fought.

 

I agree if you mean the bell won't be heard at the end of the 6th with Lyle winning. I wouldn't be surprised if Earnie dropped him tho and Lyle was possibly even saved by the bell.

 

I like Shavers better, but think Lyle was better.

 

Lyle was a very good fighter,massive balls

 

Lyle for me. Very good hard punching very tough fighter.

 

Lyle well above Shavers, IMO.
I have Lyle somewhere around number 30, Shavers somewhere around 60.

 

I think of them as on a similar level, good fighters, good punchers from the 70's, but Lyle is a little ahead of Shavers for me, mainly because he beat him.

 

Not a great deal between them, but I think Lyle edges Shavers, in terms of a rating.

In addition to Lyle's victory over Shavers, he also held a Ring-rating for longer than Shavers did and was always rated above him, during the same period.

That said, Shavers has some quality performances and, in addition to his Win and a Draw against Young, the manner of his victories over Ellis, Norton and Bugner, stand out. The difference, I would say, is that two or three of Shavers' losses are fairly bad ones - fights he perhaps should have won or had a better chance of winning than the result indicated.

Being blown out in one, by Quarry; outpointed by Stallings and stopped late by Cobb (albeit 35 years old by then) have an adverse impact on his overall rating. Lyle's losses, on the other hand, are in the main, attached to quality opponents and performances. Losses to Quarry over the distance, Young and Ali (in a fight he was winning) aren't as bad. Yes, he takes a hit later on, losing to Ball and then Cooney - but he's hitting 38/39 years old, by then.

 

Although Shavers probably has the slightly more impressive record (Ellis, Young, Henry Clark, Roy Williams, Norton, Sims, Bugner) than Lyle (Rondon, Mathis, Garcia, Peralta, Ramos, Bonavena, Ellis, Shavers, Bugner, LeDoux), plus some more on both sides, Lyle was a much more well-rounded fighter. Shavers hit harder than Lyle, who still had plenty of power. But Lyle could box too. He had better stamina, and could win in a street fight. Although Earnie's won some tough fights, he was not as durable. I have to go with Lyle by a slight margin. Better fighter with a slightly less impressive record.

 

Lyle was just flat better at everything except knocking guys out with a single right hand which as we've seen can be overcome if you have balls, of which Lyle had plenty