shavers vs baer.....

Im buying a bomb shelter

 

I actually worry for a man like Shavers being put against 180 lb. If they took him 5 rounds he'd be finished.

 

Give Shavers 8 ounce gloves and he gets knocked out even more often as well.

Anyway, your point indirectly proves my point of Baer being close to truly unstoppable. Even fighting in an era where you fought with 8 ounce gloves, he was only ever dropped by Joe Louis where he took a knee upon taking hundreds of flush power shots over 4 rounds, and the last fight of his career. Compare that to Shavers. Baer is knocking Shavers out.

 

Good post, agree completely. I'd probably add Shavers early or Baer late

 

Baer DID have a rock hard chin and was all tbat you say, ecxept he did get decked twice in losing by tko to Lou Nova in their rematch....and that was his very last fight.....and yes, once again Baer kos Shavers early....and I'm just being redundant really, cause I see that you mention "and the last fight of his career"...my apologies...it ains't even 6 yet...it's too damned early for me to be typing.

 

You do know its more tiring fighting a big man don't you? And its usually less tiring fighter a smaller man.

 

baer took some vicious combinations from louis and didn't go down.even if shavers lands a big right that ain't knocking down baer.plus shavers wasn't an atg finisher like louis.can't see shavers stopping baer.max baer KO ernie shavers

 

Depends on who he gets hit by, how many times, and weather or not they land first.

He wasn't even remotely close to unstoppable.. He was pummeled in four rounds by Joe Louis who was still a work in progress... Had that been the Louis who dispatched Schmeling in one round a few years later, I'm almost certain it would have ended just as quickly. Baer was also floored by Lou Nova, and was never hit by a truly big slugger over 200 lbs, ( except for the same inexperienced Louis, who I just mentioned, and who killed him. )

See the above statement, and read it with the thought in mind that competition is everything....

And he might very well have.... My position on the issue ( as stated earlier ), was that Baer is the more sensible pick, but I don't list it as a given... Shavers Ko'd 68 men in 74 wins, and has the testimony of two of the most durable fighters of all time as being their hardest hitting opponent. Shavers was also a terror in the early rounds, whereas Baer pummeled his best opponents late... Both men had poor defense and crude skills... One of them had a proven weak chin, while the other was stopped far less times, but fought lesser opponents... You can't tell me that if Earnie landed first with one of his signature rights ( the same that dropped Holmes, and that was heard by Ali's relatives in Africa ), that it wouldn't mean jack.... I also don't think that if Baer landed a barage early, that it would necessarily be the end of Shavers... Earnie rose off the canvas against hard hitters in Jeff Sims and Roy Harris to win fights, and took a sustained beating from Holmes on two occasions....