Shawn Porter Ducked Terence Crawford—Rejects $2 Million Dollar Offer...

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  1. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum will never go for it.
    That dude is a “penny puncher!”
    KO-ing pennies for decades!
     
  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    We are talking about Porter here. He was offered the same money he took to fight Spence. He lost the fight which diminishes his value. It was close but he lost. Guys suggesting that he is worth more than twice this amount are delusional. If he won the fight it would be a different story. He’s come up short in all his major fights. He is essentially a gatekeeper at this stage. Decent fighter but not elite and not worth more than he was offered. I hope it happens but if this fight doesn’t happen, it’s on Porter. Crawford’s team would be foolish to overpay Porter at this stage if his career.
     
  3. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    If Porter believes in himself he should take the fight knowing he gets bigger paydays after his win. Could even do a trilogy with Bud. Make it happen, Shawn. Stop believing all the whispering in your ear. He's getting comfy doing the commentating. Steady check, fun environment, no risks, etc.
     
  4. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's discovered what the rest of us have known for years, it's easier to watch boxing and talk about it than do it.

    I don't see it costing anything legacy/standing-wise to lose to Crawford. Porter isn't a perfect record guy he's a making exciting fights guy.
     
  5. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not how it works, tho. Porter recognizes that Crawford needs him more than he needs Crawford, and he's leveraging the fact that Crawford is on a promotional island to get a better deal. It's now or never for Bud, and if not Porter who else is he going to fight? There appears to be no appetite at all for Spence. I guess he could go fishing at 154, but at 147 he has run out of big fight options.
     
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  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is this on Arum, when it's the same amount he got to face Spence? AND he lost. Did his value somehow go up since then?
     
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  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right....it's more games from PBC to keep freezing TC out.
     
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  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    didnt say it was on Arum,

    i said he is a “penny puncher”’
    ( I stand by that comment.)

    I was Replying to Jackomano saying Porter or Mikey should get close to 5 milly to fight Crawford.
     
  9. Boomstick

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    Not sure what Porter is thinking here. He has some leverage, but not enough to be asking for more than what was offered. Bad look on him.
     
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  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No real comment on this, the agreement or lack thereof speaks for itself. However I recall an example of a fighter taking an extreme short payout despite his name recognition (which was actually bigger than his opponent), Zab Judah vs. Cory Spinks II. Zab took a purse for $180,000 compared to I believe Spinks' $1.5 million purse, just so he could get the fight. We already know the result. Zab definitely warranted a larger purse than he received...........but a real predator will do things like that sometimes. Not saying these guys are or aren't predators, but...................
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not only did Porterlose to Spence, he was also a titlist going into that fight. So a Spence rematch will worth less. I don't think he'll want the Ugas rematch, he doesn't bring enough to the table for Pac to fight him, he already lost to Thurman and neither have a title. This is the Best option.

    PBC welterweight scene brought us several quality fights, but It's run It's course. They spent years pretending that WBO didn't exist to avoid mentioning the name Terence Crawford, only to celebrate Brian Castano as the world champion after he won the WBO belt.
     
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  12. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Crawford already beat Brook who beat Porter. Beating another one if Spence’s leftovers accomplishes very little. Overpaying for the privilege is just dumb. Porter has very options at this stage and I don’t see any of them paying him $3-5 million especially during Covid shutdown. Porter has already proven he can beat mid tier guys and come up short against top guys. He has more to gain in this fight because Crawford has a belt. Beating a gatekeeper like Porter is no big deal and not worth the price he’s asking.

    Crawford needs to focus on getting Spence to fight him. If the Porters of the world don’t want to fight for a fair offer, screw em. Porter is nothing special and is overvaluing his ability and drawing power.
     
  13. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With ppv upside he did way more than 2m for spence...still i dint think he should get more than 3m for bud
     
  14. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Spence fight is the only one that matters, I agree on that part. But it's not a question of what Porter is objectively worth; what matters is what Porter is worth to Crawford. If TC could get $8M himself for fighting Porter, what do his other potential paydays look like? That's the subject of the negotiation, however we might assess each of their options independent of each other.

    To be clear, I think this is all a waste of time. PBC milked its stable for long enough, and it's time for Uncle Al to take some risk. For his part, Arum wants to criticize his own fighter when it was Arum who failed to get Crawford a really big fight. Given how long he has been considered a PfP guy, Crawford's resume is abysmal. It's on TC for not demanding better, but it's on Arum too.
     
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  15. Boomstick

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    I agree Porter is overvaluing himself in this whole thing. Not sure what he is thinking, but Crawford does need a welter of his stature on his resume. Brook was done and inactive when Crawford fought him. Porter would represent the best welter on his resume, hands down.

    I feel this whole picture at welter is a mess. Crawford has to focus on Spence. Spence has to be reasonable in what he's asking.