Shelley Finkel - I called Hearn. Hearn doesn't want the Wilder-Joshua fight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dubblechin, Nov 6, 2017.


  1. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Id rather Hearn contacted Wilders promoters as that is the better and more competitive fight. Plus its the fight thats in far more demand. This just backs up the notion that Hearn doesn't fancy the Wilder fight.

    The last decade had two brothers ruling over the division. The best all fought the best in the era before that. Don't really know what you're talking about. What exactly is stopping the fight from happening next year. One side wants it , its only a matter of the other side wanting the same.
    And ... im not a Wilder fanboy , i see more potential in Joshua and would favor him to win , i defend Wilder because he is saying all the right things and i support unification fights in the sport.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now the WBA is stalling everything?

    That's what you're going with?
     
  3. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what it is, I just explained clearly why.
     
  4. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Honest question for the wilder fans on here, what percentage of the split does he deserve?

    And don't say. I dont care about the split i just want to see the fight because wilder is demanding 50-50 and you will never see the fight if he keeps demanding that.

    So honest question what split does he deserve .
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    You don't want to get into it because you don't have an answer.

    Where did Deontay Wilder's "top 2" ranking come from ?
    He's barely beaten anyone in any reasonable top 10.
    Maybe Stiverne the first time is the only one.

    The latest fight: Stiverne 2017 isn't even top 20 or top 30. He's undeserving of ranking. That's the kind of crap fuelling your Wilder hype train.

    There's no substance to what you say.

    The only thing legitimizes the higher ranking of Wilder is the RING Magazine ranking and the WBC Belt.
    But RING Magazine rank Tyson Fury as champion anyway, and how they arrived at Wilder as #2 I don't know. A bit like having Bellew in the top 10. The WBC is a disgrace, as evident from having Stiverne ranked as a top contender at all.

    How does a fighter climb to "top 2" in the division if he hasn't been through some of the guys ranked in the top 5 or top 10 ?

    Don't get me wrong, AJ-Wilder is a good interesting fight and a worthy fight for title unification, but don't go pretending Wilder has proved himself the #1 or #2 right now. To prove yourself a top 2, you need to stop facing guys no one has heard of.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why is he saying that? Um ... let's see ...why would he say something that isn't supported by facts?

    Let's see? Was the Joshua-Wlad record-breaking outdoor fight in the UK in the summer? No.

    Was the Joshua-Takam record-breaking indoor record fight in the summer? No.

    Was the Joshua-Martin title fight in the summer? No.

    Was the Joshua-Molina tuneup in the summer? No.

    Was the Joshua-Whyte major fight before Joshua won the title in the summer? No.

    Hell, were the Carl Froch-George Groves record-breaking attendance fights in the SUMMER? No.

    Hmmm.

    Makes you think summer isn't very important, doesn't it?

    How about the U.S.?

    Biggest moneymaking fight ever was Mayweather-Pac. Before that it was Mayweather-Canelo. Before that it was Oscar-Mayweather. Before that it was the Tyson-Holyfield fights. And the Holyfield-Lewis fights. And on and on. Ali-Frazier I, II and III. Ali-Norton I, II, III.

    I'll be damned if NONE Of them were in the summer.

    So, I'm going to go WAY out on a limb here say yes, he's lying.

    Because ... and I'll go back to the beginning of the thread ... HEARN DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE THE JOSHUA-WILDER FIGHT!!!

    Shocking as that may be for some of you. But there it is. Whether its in the UK or the US, holding a fight IN THE SUMMER hasn't meant more money.

    Sorry. Like David Haye's little toe, it's not really a factor.
     
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  7. Dave70

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    I totally agree with you, people have to understand that there are a few problems setting this fight up in the UK at the moment.
    1) Wembley isn't available until the middle of may at best due to spurs renting it this year, unlike last year.
    2)There is the football (soccer) world cup in the summer. I think it's is around April or may before the draw is made for it. So nobody knows when exactly the games will be played.
    That wouldn't leave long to promote the fight and have a full camp before about August. People have to realise that if it was done before and landed on the same time as a big football game it would lose 90% of the ppv
     
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  8. KingFury64

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    He`s done nothing to earn a shot at the division superstar. Joshua`s team quite rightly are in no hurry to fight Wilder, that contest can wait. Wilder needs the fight more than AJ. Wilder and his team must be crying themselves to sleep at night reading about all the cash Joshua is raking in.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know you typed it, but what you typed isn't true.

    Wlad wasn't the WBA champ in 2017, like you said. There is no WBA regular champ and no WBA interim champ and the WBA isn't blocking anything right now.

    Please post one quote from Hearn saying the WBA is holding things up.
     
  10. madballster

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    Hearns made the Wlad fight which was 10x more dangerous than a Wilder fight. Wlad's manager was on record saying Hearns and AJ were serious in the negotiations and didn't play any games at all -- they weren't scared. They wanted Wlad.

    The same Wlad who DESTROYED Wilder in sparring. Yet you argue Hearns & AJ are scared of Wilder -- a guy with no track record whatsoever? A guy with ZERO draw? That makes no sense.

    You have to face it. Wilder brings no money to the table so he has to fight where and when AJ says. Just like Canelo dictated when he'd fight GGG. GGG didn't have a say in it.
     
  11. Ilikeboxing

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    There is no Wilder vs AJ yet for 2 reasons.
    1) WBA mando which needs doing before anything else can be added.
    2) Fury vs AJ is a much bigger fight than Wilder vs AJ currently and they have kinda verbally agreed to a summer 2018 showdown for that fight.

    No promoter is going to organise a fight for lets say Dec until those two above have been dealt with.
    Fury vs AJ could swing either way. Winner of that vs Wilder at Vegas or Wembley during Summer 2019

    In the meantime, why don't team Wilder fight Parker and the winner of that faces the winner of AJ/Fury. Now that's how you build a fight.
     
  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua clearly says it in his post-fight interview after Takam. Those mandatories are real, they are not imaginary to keep the big bad boogeyman Wilder at bay.
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Too bad the Joshua-Wlad fight took place in April.

    If it had been in the summer, maybe somebody would've shown up.
     
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  14. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn doesnt want it....yet
    I was talking about the last decade as the culinary decade of boxing lol. Not talking about HW boxing but boxing in general. All big fights got delayed a.k.a the marinating process. Floyd did it, than Oscar, now Eddie Hearn.

    All Wilder has to do is see what Pac and GGG did in the meantime. And thats take on tough opponents, pick up belts, etc. We all know the fight gonna happen at some point if both keep winning. We just live in this stupid paradigm that says each big earning fight should and will be millked to the max.
     
  15. Outstock

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    If Wilder brings no money to the table then why it it only possible for the fight to happen in a stadium next summer??