Shelly Finkel manager of Deontay Wilder states that Anthony Joshua is still a huge fight for Deontay

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    One of the most intriguing fights in all of boxing, imo.

    Wilders tougnness and determination, vs AJs skill, both with nuclear warheads that can end the other one in any moment of any round.

    Please let this fight happen.
     
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  2. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    Sure, but if Fury fought AJ first, then Usyk would remain champ until Fury (or AJ) then fought him. Usyk's value as a legacy fight won't diminish, whereas Joshua's will if he loses to Wilder while Fury fights Usyk. An AJ-Fury fight after AJ loses AGAIN wouldn't be nearly as valuable/tantalising (if AJ even were to stick around after such a scenario). It's different if AJ were to beat Wilder, of course...
     
  3. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am thinking Joshua ktfo Wilder.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would be a good fight. Joyce and Ruiz also looks like interesting opponents for both. Whyte could be as well if he beats Wallin and then gives Fury a decent fight. Parker of course gets back in the mix with a win against Joyce.

    The problem with Wilder right now is that he probably still is a dangerous opponent, but a win over him will only be dismissed as beating up on old, damaged goods after the two maulings at the hands of Fury. Joshua has lost too, but they haven't been as punishing fights and he's also younger.
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, I think a rematch with Usyk will be a bigger payday, and with the chance of getting three belts back and setting up mega fights with Fury. Wilder will always be risky with his power (even though Fury has won their trilogy very decisively he has to come back from four KD:s to do it) and beating him will only be doing what Fury has done, and old Ortiz nearly did, to a younger and fresher version. It might not even take him above Joyce in the pecking order and if he loses it's a long way back

    Right now the Usyk rematch is definitely his best option. If he wins he right back at the top with Fury and if he loses he's not really worse off than right now.
     
  6. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not a theory, it's a fact. He spent his career fighting bums and turning down 9 figures to fight AJ on DAZN.
    But you're trying to make out he's some all conquering warrior because he chose to fight an actual junkie who'd had three years out of the ring, fat camp and two glorified sparring sessions as preparation? Give me a break. Tony Bellew was calling out that Fury!
    He was then shamed in to those rematches because it would've been a clear duck otherwise. Nothing about his career suggests he has the heart to fight top level opposition in their prime. He couldn't even face a plodder like Dillian Whyte.

    But he's got no choice now. Either fight a couple of bums for chump change before retirement or grow a set and make some real money.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Or Marion.
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk is far harder to beat than Wilder.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes probably, but the reward is also far greater and if he loses he's still not really worse off than he is right now. With Wilder the opposite is more true. If he wins, he has only bested Fury's old leftovers and if he loses, he's a long way from any title.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Especially if AJ regains the titles defeating Usyk and Wilder.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder no longer has a title, but he's still all people want to talk about.