Shields or Taylor who’s greater?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Austinboxing, Oct 15, 2022.


Who’s greater?

  1. Shields

    30 vote(s)
    46.2%
  2. Taylor

    35 vote(s)
    53.8%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Serrano is 44-2-1 (30 KOs) and a seven-weight world champion and she moved up through the divisions

    Number of registered female pros in the divisions she won world titles in

    Super-flyweight = 150
    Bantamweight 176
    Super-bantamweight = 173
    Featherweight = 177
    Super-featherweight = 190
    Lightweight = 149
    Super-lightweight = 85

    Shields is 13-0 (2 KOs) and a three-weight world champion who moved down not up through the divisions

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    Number of registered female pros in the divisions she won world titles in

    Super-middleweight = 31
    Middleweight = 21
    Super-welterweight = 61

    Taylor is 21-0 (6 KOs) and a two-weight world champion and she moved up not down and

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    Number of registered female pros in the divisions she won world titles in

    Lightweight = 149
    Super-lightweight = 85

    Shields more decorated as a pro but there wasn't even a combined 100 registered pros in the THREE divisions she's won world titles in until very recently
     
  2. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Shields. You can't be criticized for having too little competition at the largest (aka H2H best) legitimate weight class. You are the best. Shields dominated almost everybody and beat everybody she was asked to, in the largest real divisions women's boxing has.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I know I'm laughing because you've been consistent with your hate of all things women's boxing I think it's hilarious.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    To become the #1 at MW all you have to do is be better than 20 other women

    The #3 ranked MW is 9-8-3

    To become the #1 at SMW all you have to do is be better than 30 other women

    The #6 ranked SMW is 3-4-1

    To become the #1 at LMW all you have to do is be better than 60 other women

    The #6 ranked LMW is 12-6-0

    The lower down in weight you go the much deeper the talent pool

    Stop acting like the women's talent pool is remotely as deep as the men's

    I'm sure it will improve with time but the overall depth and quality as of now is very poor
     
  5. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shields is a damn good fighter, I feel like a fool for not checking her out properly before dismissing her. if she was male she would still be good.
     
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  6. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shields obviously, she said she could beat Golovkin didn't she?
     
  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Shields…Taylor got her ass beat 2 fights ago and got a legitimate gift decision.
     
  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Everybody knows its Shields. I think Taylor and Serrano need to run it back because that fight was a draw imo and could have went to Serrano. Plus the persoon fight was hella close as welll..
     
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  11. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Ronnie shields was a decent fighter but Meldrick Taylor was levels above.
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    She got one bad decision against Persoon and you guys have been harping on that forever. Shields has a crap resume when you take into account the total lack of depth at her weight classes.
     
  13. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    She beat Serrano fair and square, stop with that gift decision bs. Only Americans think that.
     
  14. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Shields > Taylor.

    All her wins are undebatable. And she has two really good Ws against Marshall and Hammer. And she won both fights clearly.

    Taylor has two or three Ws on her record which could or even should be Ls.

    Saying that...Taylor definitely fought the better opposition overall. But that's not Shields fault. There is just a less amount of quality opponents in the higher weight classes.
     
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  15. peartree

    peartree New Member Full Member

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    Before the Marshall fight I wasn't entirely sold on Shields. But in that fight she raised her level very significantly and It may be the best performance ever by a female fighter. Marshall is very good but simply wasn't allowed to display her pretty special skills. She (Marshall) is probably better than anyone Taylor has faced- she's maybe better than any female except Taylor.

    Shields, despite the poorer competition at higher weights, is the best at any division she could make- that's super-welter to super-middle. It's true that there are many more boxers at lower weights but many of them are very poor. McCaskill, undisputed at welter is very crude- even Serrano is not a great boxer but like McCaskill has had success largely through energy and aggression.

    Taylor has been in some very close fights including one that most observers believe she lost. Shields has been extraordinarily dominant in almost every round of every fight. She's achieved so much and could go on being dominant for 7 or 8 years. It's Shields for me.
     
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