Shinya Aoki: "I'm Better And Capable Of Beating UFC Fighters"

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://mmamania.com/2009/10/04/shin...hter-and-capable-of-beating-ufc-lightweights/

     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    He's clearly a sickhead when it comes to grappling but what about his losses? I don't think I've seen his losses only his victories where he is pulling off sick moves.

    Can anyone elaborate on his losses?

    Two losses to Hayato Sakurai?
     
  3. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sakurai is tough bro first off hes huge, a great fighter and isnt the easiest to get to the ground.
     
  4. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Penn would stop Aoki on his feet.

    BJ's TD is good enough to stop it from going to the ground, and even then I think his BJJ is just as good as Aoki's.
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I think Aoki has almost virtually no chance agianst Penn. He gets raped standing, cant take him down. He could pull guard but BJs posture and JiuJitsu skills are arguablly even better. Aoki has a beautiful guard but submitting Joachim Hansen aint like taping BJ Penn. We have only seen BJ struggle at BJJ when he fought at much bigger GSP and had his guard passed alot and Aoki cant do that as he wont TD Penn, wont sweep Penn. Id love to see them fight but in a pure grappling match adding in strikes just causes Aoki to get humilated.
     
  6. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Yeah seeing a grappling match between the two would be great. Havn't really seen BJ grappling much but from what I have he looks superb.
     
  7. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aoki probably wouldn't take Penn down in a conventional sense. But its very very difficult to stop the fight from going to the mat when youre opponent doesn't care how it gets there. Aoki is also pretty fast. In a ring he can cut the ring off and tie up somehow and pull guard, or pull some sort of acrobatics. In the cage it would be more difficult, but I still think he would get the fight to the mat at some point. From there he would either sumbit Penn, or Penn would control him and win te fight from there.
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I dont see anybody penns size subing him in an mma match.
     
  9. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Aoki cant sub Penn.
    Penn will either sub him or TKO him with GnP if the fight hits the ground
     
  10. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
  11. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I believe Penn has the superior jiujitsu game and has faced superior competition throughout his career - up to and including current light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida. That said - I think Aoki is a very worthy challenger - much more worthy than recent contender Kenny Florian.
     
  12. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Browsing some grappling vids on youtube I saw this Aoki vs Marcelo Garcia.

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    I know Garcia is a beast but I waas not expecting Aoki to get worked like that.
     
  13. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aoki's subs are way more diverse than Penn's....But Penn's sub defense is amazing. In other other words , Aoki would probably struggle like hell and lose by decision or tko. But anything is possible...

    ( Caol Uno once proved it.....the guy got owned in their first fight but managed to last the distance and draw in the rematch)..

    Penn is physically stronger too....But anyway , Aoki personally impresses me because he's quite one dimensional...His striking is ****...his wrestling isn't anything special..But he excels in the sub department. He's so good at it that he still manages to be dominant in today's era.

    Arona is another guy that comes to mind....One dimensional...But ultra dominant on the ground.
     
  15. Kestrel

    Kestrel Windhover Full Member

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    Is he coming to the UFC? Why all the talk about Aoki vs Penn...