Shogun vs Hendo was a clear-cut draw. Round 3 definitely not a 10-8 Hendo.

Pot meet kettle.

Speaking of which, didn't you have Pacquiao winning the third Marquez fight? :think

Yeeeeahhhh... don't think you should be telling people what fights are easy to score, mate.

 

You know what else you were a bit "over-the-top" on. This ironclad prediction you made prior to the fight we're discussing.

What a gem, huh?:roflatsch

This was a reply to my suggestion which was.....

So, now that I'm feeding you crow you still can't even admit that your guy wasn't the better man in any regard, sans cardio, and you can't admit that he lost even though he was nearly KTFOed three or four different times and ended up looking like a reasonable facsimile of the elephant man. Stop making excuses, your hero got ****ed up.:hi:

 

Why? Why, why, why? You have been given a list of the Unified Rules which clearly explain the criteria involved in determining a 10-8 round. Knockdowns, damage, and positional dominance all play into it. By that reasoning you can award the third a 10-8 to Hendo via a knockdown, near stoppage, AND hellacious damage. The fifth is a clear-cut example of complete and utter positional dominance and massive number of strikes landing but there was very, very little damage done even though Shogun spent 90% of the round punching from mount.

I don't know about you but I like MMA because it's a real fight and when I see two people fight in the ring or the street I generally say that the guy who nearly knocked the other one out is the winner. Shogun only hurt Hendo one time, Shogun was hurt badly numerous times. What's more impressive and really more DESERVING of a 10-8 round. One in which a guy controlled the other or one in which most other refs would have come in for a stoppage? The former, although I scored both as a 10-8 because I understand the rules and follow them more closely than the actual judges do.

Awarding a draw to a guy who got the teetotal **** beat out of him for three and a half rounds would be an absolute disgrace.

 

No, because both the third and fifth can be scored as 10-8s. The scoring criteria clearly allows for both rounds to be scored that way and it's merely your opinion and nothing more that the third shouldn't. If a fighter is nearly finished, then a 10-8 is certainly applicable. Shogun was on the verge of consciousness and Herb Dean would have pulled Hendo off. If you value damage over control and you score the fifth a 10-8, you MUST score the third a 10-8, as well.

 

The best system is the old UFC/Pride one. Just write down on a piece of paper who you thought won the fight at the end.

 

No way it's a draw. To even pretend that Shogun deserved a 10-8 round is just silly. He never had Hendo in danger of being finished. Shogun was almost just as wore out as Hendo, and wasn't doing ANY damage. His punches at that stage couldn't have cracked an egg. Draping himself onto Hendo for an entire round while throwing meaningless punches of which most were avoided doesn't warrant you a 10-8 round. Especially if you are arguing that when Hendo dropped Shogun and almost finished him on the ground wasn't a 10-8 round. Hendo dominated and hurt Shogun for those first 3 rounds, and a worn out Shogun won the next two rounds over an even more worn out Henderson.

 

For a number of reasons, that is a terrible way to score a fight. The only real advantage that method has is that it's much easier for the Yakuza to deliver a pre-determined outcome.

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