Shogun vs. Vera: Winner gets title shot?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Rob_Floyd, Jul 30, 2012.


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  1. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apparently Dana confirmed this to be true. I sincerely hope he is just trying to hype that everyone sees as a total mismatch. If (big if) Vera manages to pull off the upset, he would still be far from deserving of a rematch with Jones. A controversial win over Eliot Marshall and an upset over Shogun is just not a strong case for a title shot.

    Shogun, who is likely to win this one, is also undeserving of a rematch at this point. He is coming off of a loss to Hendo. Beating Vera is not enough to earn another title shot, even if you are a legend in the sport, like Shogun.

    Plus, both guys have already been dominated by Jones. I think everyone would rather see him face new blood rather than see these rematches.


    ...of course this is all assuming Jones beats Hendo.
     
    Rob_Floyd, Jul 30, 2012
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  2. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    But what if Vera dominated Shogun (an impossible scenario yes) even worse than Bones did?

    No one has ever than done that.
     
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  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Well, I just hope Vera doesn´t win then....
     
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Jul 30, 2012
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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Well I hope Dan beats Jones then and we get Sho/Hendo II for all the marbles :smoke
     
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  5. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    I tell you mate, Im a Filipino, but Shogun just needs a well placed right hand and it's over. :lol:
     
    SugarShane_24, Jul 30, 2012
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  6. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was in two very brutal fights last year. If Vera manages to dominate him, I would attribute it to wear and tear more than anything. Shogun may only be thirty, but his body is much older.

    I would still be awfully impressed if Vera is able to pull off a victory.
     
    Rob_Floyd, Jul 30, 2012
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  7. Kittikasem

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    I'd like to see Shogun get another crack at Jones, but he really has to earn it by beating some top guys first, so he has some momentum and some legitimacy.

    To come off a loss to Hendo, beat Brandon Vera, and then get a title shot is complete bull****, and this is coming from a big, big Shogun fan.

    I'd rather see Shogun fight Rashad or Gustafsson or Teixiera or L'il Nog or Phil Davis first.

    Or Machida even? I doubt people would be interested in seeing Bones rematch both Shogun and Machida before he goes to hw, so they should probably fight each other to see who is more deserving of the shot at the champ.
     
    Kittikasem, Jul 30, 2012
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  8. HeGlassedMe

    HeGlassedMe ufc is the new pet rock Full Member

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    :lol: best fight the best for a shot at the ufc gold.
     
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  9. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Ridiculous
     
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  10. afterglow

    afterglow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The LHW division is seriously weak.
     
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  11. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Ummm no.

    The champion is just special.
     
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  12. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    jon jones tweeted that he was scratching his head at this news, thats a great way to start selling a fight
     
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  13. HeGlassedMe

    HeGlassedMe ufc is the new pet rock Full Member

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    Big time.
     
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  14. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    No. There are lots of good, competitive fights to be made.

    Just not for the title. :conf

    :hat
     
    Haggis McJackass, Jul 30, 2012
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  15. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    That's why I don't blame Jones for wanting to go heavyweight, should he beat Hendo his next comp is between 2 guys he already brutally finished. The prob is that he cleaned out the division in record time and the only other names he hasn't already beaten are Gust and Lil Nog.

    I don't think many fans are begging for Jones-Shogun/Vera-2
     
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