Short Video. Tyson Sparing "Truth" Williams

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just found this on Youtube.

    Tyson was apparently 17 and still an amateur. Videos from 1983

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmnue04gGU&feature=related[/ame]
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    on an unrelated note
    does anybody anything about this guy?
    says he sparred with Tyson

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oakVICRJGYI&feature=related[/ame]
     
  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Better action than in their actual fight years later. Tyson caught Williams with a big punch here but probably didn't carry the dynamite that he did by the late 1980's.
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Williams has friggin fast hands!
    watching him here makes me wonder why he didnt do more with his career, he seemed to have all the toolset

    Tyson was approx 17 here, fought Williams 6 years later
     
  5. Unforgiven

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  6. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Comes across as slightly rude, pays more attention to the background than the camera.
    Picked JJW and Holmes, so hes obviously knows his stuff. and doesnt fal for the Tyson/Ali banter
     
  7. lefthook31

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    Because he couldnt keep his lefthand up and had a suspect chin.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes recovered from the KD rights of Snipes and Shavers.
    Lots of guys have issues keeping the left hand up, but succeed anyway. I'd further distill Carl's flaws to those of having a suspect chin and lack of recuperative powers and survival skills. Essentially, that was the difference between a Carl Williams and a Holmes or Ali. He wasn't able to shake off Weaver's possum sucker counter hook off the ropes the way He could also start slowly and be caught cold. Tillis, Cooper and Morrison all decked him in the opening round, in addition to what Tyson did to him.
     
  9. Bogotazo

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    To me it kind of looks kind of like what I'd imagine the first round of Ali-Tyson to look like.
     
  10. lefthook31

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    Thats kind of what I said wasnt it? He did have a suspect chin, but Williams seemed to continually get flattened by the same shot which was the most glaring flaw he had.
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just reinforcing you, that's all. Weaver really baited the trap for him though, and Carl swallowed it, hook, line, sinker, rod, reel, arm and boat. (Anybody who doubts Hercules was feigning distress should watch the positioning of his left arm when Bonecrusher, Dokes, Coetzee and others really did hurt him. In those instances, Mike had his left hand up by his face. With Carl, he had it cocked and loaded by his waist, ready to trigger the shot, using his left shoulder for protection instead. I recognized it instantly, viewing the live telecast, and knew what was about to happen.)
     
  12. dee-z-r

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    i kinda get what you mean.
     
  13. PetethePrince

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    Tyson looks great. A bit smaller here, but a clear dynamite force of the future.
     
  14. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I found a compliation video of Tyson sparring, including that footage...

    [yt]eGCyWr1jkOg[/yt]


    Includes:

    1. '90 sparring with Greg Page before Douglas fight
    2. '89 sparring with Jesse Ferguson before Bruno I fight
    3. '84 sparring with (unknown)
    4. '83 sparring with Carl Williams
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Good stuff. :good

    Greg Page was superb when he could be bothered. He was too good to be a sparring partner / "opponent" that he became from about 1986 or '87 onwards. I guess he was just there for the money.
    He had the ability to beat anyone out there really, if he really wanted to.

    Tyson looks **** in the '89 clip against Ferguson. Worse than the '90 clip.

    I'm not convinced that the third clip is Ferguson again. Are you sure ?