Should Adamek beat or be competetive with Vitali, it's a far greater achievement than

we are talking about vitali vs adamek? wtf it has to do with Wlad or another fighters? whats up with you? :hi:

so you say it is 50/50?

adamek is a warrior, unlike haye. but to say it is 50/50 its just ridiculous!

 

should he lose to adamek I'm sure you'll say it's because of how past his prime he is and how much he has slowed down and pretty much every point I make.

You're just not willing to give Vitali his due credit.

 

:deal

 

I think Lufcrazy is only pointing out that Vitali is past his prime. Watch the Kevin Johnson fight, he made Vitali look a bit silly at times.

We have to be honest, Vitali has slowed down. He's fine if the fighter comes straight at him, but a defensive fighter like Johnson big Vit did not look good against.

 

it would be a good win, against a warrior in his backyard. that what i will say after the fight.

what will you say? remember it is 50/50! :yep

 

Adamek is not kevin johnson, who btw lost every single round agaisnt vitali. adamek comes to win not just to survive!

 

why would it be a good win if it's a mismatch?

I'll say it demonstrates yet another style vitali has proven to overcome against a prime opponent whilst past prime himself.

 

:good

 

yeah I know. I'm just saying, for signs of ageing and frustation on Vitali's side, watch that fight.

 

so it is a missmatch or 50/50? i dont understand your logic. :nut

 

vitali throws 1000+ punches, its not bad for an ageing vitali?

did vitali looks like he is shot or past prime?

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so you think it is 50/50? like luzicezy?

 

the irony is really funny because I was just saying to my Dad how I gave someone a false dilemma (he's quite big on logical falacies)

of course you're right there are more options.

What I am saying is that by virtue, the less competitive you view the fight, the less credit you should give to Vitali.

Since I see it as 50/50 because it is a style I see Vitali unproven against, a prime top ranked opponent and the fact that Vitali has aged compounded with the size discrepancy and the lack of depth to Adamek's HW resume I'll be giving plenty of credit should Vitali or Adamek prove victorious.

If you believe it's not a competitive fight then I don't see how afterwards you can give Vitali credit.

To save going round in circles, I'm calling it 50/50, what split are you putting forth?

 

Not the point.. He's still not as good as he was. He's 40 for goodness sake. It's not an insult. He looked bad against Johnson, yeah he won...

To beat Haye he needs speed. I want to see speed from Vitali tonight.

 

Keepin' em' straight...:yep