Should Adamek beat or be competetive with Vitali, it's a far greater achievement than

You have to think about age. 40 is an old athlete. Any one night age can catch up when you are Vitali's age.

I favour Vitali, but if there is one guy that beats Vitali (no injuries) then I would be happy for it to be Adamek.

I want Vitali to win though and actually give Adamek a real beat down to prove he can beat the hell out of Haye.

I'm hoping we see Vitali the heavyweight destroyer tonight.

 

i always read that vitali is a paper champion BS from you and fought bad opponents... Let's see what you'll find again to discredit vitali after the fight.

i never said that it would be a missmatch , i alleways give adamem his credit. he deserved the title shot more than haye, he is a real warrior. but again to say it is 50/50 its ridiculous, especially after the weigh in!

 

to beat haye you need skills, like countrpunching, pressure and a good workrate. vitali can do this. only with a jap you cant stop haye.

vitali is 40 but he is in a great shape goodness sake!

 

Vitali IS a paper champion. there should only be one champ per division and at the moment that champ is Wlad.

His run of opponents from Donald to Williams was good and that led to him being the champ, but he then retired.

He beat Peter which was brilliant, although Peter was overweight which can't be overlooked. He beat Arreola which was brilliant, although Arreola was overweight which can't be overlooked. His victory over Gomez has increased in my estimation lately.

Anyone saying Vitali has a superior resume to Wlad or Norton is clueless and that's the only debate I've had recently regarding his opposition I believe.

Ok so I'm ridiculous saying it's 50/50, what do you say it is then?

 

I like your enthusiasm for big Vitali. You also need speed.

Haye likes to run against bigger opponents.

 

Why is Wlad the champ, he doesent fight the main competition today. so he is a paper champ too, by your logic!

Why you discredit only vitalis opponents? what is with hep c chagaev, shot rahman, atg austin, peter who was schooled by vitali, thmopson who starts boxing at 24, boring and close decision over haye and so on? its not like wads opponents are so much better!

who say this? nobudy says that vitali has the better opponents than wlad. but again lewis is miles better that the opponents wlad ever fought!

make a poll, than we will see how much people would agree that it is a 50/50. than we will see who is ridiculous!

 

It depends how well he does. RJJ really dominated a formidable and ranked opponent, but not the divisional top dog, though he was coming up from middleweight. Adamek is fighting a past-prime but still elite legitimate champion, and is a huge underdog. I personally don't think he should be such a huge underdog. At the same time, Adamek's career was at Light Heavyweight. The weight jump is not the same by any means. So again, it depends how well Adamek does and what kind of performance/fight goes down.

 

haye is also alleways of balance when he throws his haymakers, vitali wouild counterpucnh him all night! today you will see vitalis speed! :good

 

because Wlad has: peter, byrd, iggy, chagaev and haye there is no doubt any more.

because we're discussing Vitali's resume so why would I talk about Wlad?

the recent debates I've had regarding Vitali's opposition have been in comparison to Wlad and Norton, both times he is a level below.

what split do you give the fight?

 

I hope so!:good

 

against an unexpirince Peter, Wlad was in truoble big trouble. after vitali schooled him only then wlad was able to stop peter in a terrible cuddly fight
against Iggy he fought overcautious, it was not a convincing win
hep c chagaev was allready over the hill at fightnight
and haye see iggy

so you see i can do this with wlads opponet too!



my spilt is 80/20! adamek is not in vitalis league! but you must give vitali probs for fightig outwards again! that's what champions do!

 

I have it 99/1 in favor of Vitali. Only way Vitali loses this fight is if gets an injury. Vitali will win almost if not every round and i can see a stoppage win for Vitali late in the fight.

 

I'm not bothered if you pick apart wlad's resume, i'm no fan of his.

What's clear is that since 2006, in the hw division, noone has fought successfully against opposition as good as wlad has.

So you would give vitali credit for defeating a man he has an 80% of defeating.

I hope you can see how hypocritical that is.

It's ok i'll just credit vitali more than you will. That's fine.

 

Giving Vitali a 80% chance of winning or in my case 99% isn't downgrading the Vitali win, i rate Adamek highly its just he is against a man who i think he can't beat. I honestly think Vitali beats him 99/100 maybe even 100/100

 

still wlad doesent fight the main opposition how you call this? paperchampion? :think


its not credit to give adamek 50% to win against vitali. which means you underestimate vitali. i give adamek only 20% not because he is bad, its because vitali is that strong!

we will see what you have to say after the fight.