Should AJ lose weight to improve his speed?

Because Ruiz is faster than Fury and is more natural with the typical mexican style where he plants his feet, pressures his opponents and throws quick combinations and is better than Fury with his counters as well. Fury can throw quick pot shots and jabs at range like he did against Klitschko but in terms of brawling he is no faster than Aj

Fury is sloppy on the front foot compared to Aj as shown in the Wilder and Wallin fight but since Wilder cannot fight going backwards it's effective regardless. Fury may be a better inside fighter but it's not that simple. To get on the inside he has to get past Aj's mid-range combinations and his counters. Wilder cannot fight on the inside whatsoever nor is he proficient at mid range nor is he good at countering nor can he throw more than 1 punch. Aj is the best combination puncher in the division besides Ruiz, actually Ruiz had to get up from getting heavily dropped by a uppercut/left hook combo in the pocket and then he ate a powerful right hand before beating Aj to the punch in their second exchange. Aj beat the hell out of Klitschko in round 5 and dropped him (Something Fury couldn't do) but then gassed and got tagged left and right. But you want to know why he gassed ? Because he weighed 250 pounds and didn't pace himself well. He was very anxious and wasn't relaxed at all which probably led to him burning nervous energy and all of this was likely due to inexperience. That was Aj's 19th fight. Who was Fury's 19th fight ? Fury beat Klitschko more impressively i agree but Aj has improved a bit. Aj definitely should come in light or else he'll gas

It's a 50/50 fight. Let the best man win. Also if Aj wins please don't use Fury's inactivity as an excuse

 

I'm more looking for a discussion as opposed to an argument, you make some good points so I'd like to keep it on that level. If AJ comes in lighter, yes he isn't likely to gas but that's going to affect what he can put on his shots and therefore affect what he can do to stop Fury overwhelming him at any distance. At this point somebody might say 'oh, Cunningham dropped Fury, why can't 230lb AJ?' Boxing doesn't work like that and today's Fury would murder that uncommitted drunk. Well, I'm assuming he arrives in top condition, who knows?

I wouldn't compare 19th fights as if that means something. AJ had a more extensive amateur career, of course he was matched with better boxers at that point. It's the same as people using Lomachenko and Usyk's early pro careers as if that's ballsy when really they've been fighting all their adult lives until that point. Doesn't wash.

I'm not having it that AJ was inexperienced when he fought Ruiz. Joshua had fought plenty of high level opponents, if he overlooked Ruiz like 95% of his fans then really, that's his problem. It was his 7th defence, if you haven't got your nerves out of your system by then, well...

I don't believe it's a 50/50 fight, more 75/25 Fury but if AJ wins, great. Even better if there's a trilogy. I'm not a fan of one boxer or the other, I just see Fury dealing with Joshua most of the time.

 

Fury has significantly improved since the cunningham fight yes but it's not like his punch resistance got any better because in the end thats what's going to matter if Fury tried to brawl with Joshua. Pijkic also dropped Fury, Wallin stunned him, and Firtha rocked him. He's improved to where he can anticipate punches better and slip the or roll with them but i when theres a punch he can't see coming he get get seriously hurt. If Aj comes in at 240lb he easily still has the power to hurt Fury. Speed kills. Joshua is fast and accurate with his combinations. Fury not so much

Fury isn't some monster on the front foot. Whenever Wilder loaded up his right hand, Fury backed up or slipped it at range. Fury wasn't in there slipping while aggressively moving forward like Mike Tyson. Aj would easily overwhelm him at mid-range, and not only that but Aj can counter over Fury's jab, something Wilder cannot do. Fury got tagged even by Wilders 1 right hand. Joshua would tag him 10 fold. Fury's skilled but overrated after that performance because Wilder has beaten nobody of note besides Luis Ortiz. Even Whyte has a better resume.

I never said Aj was inexperienced when he fought Ruiz i said he was inexperienced when he fought Klitschko. But regardless Aj dropped Ruiz and then traded with the shorter faster fighter and failed. He's learned from that and he has improved.

 

aj should take his money and retire. he'd make an excellent representitive for the ministry of truth

 

I thought Brits were known for their humor.

 

You can tell by his triceps (which are slightly atrophied) just how bulked up he is and has been on a weights programme.

 

Not at all coming in anywhere between 236-245 pounds is perfect for the fight with Tyson Fury. Personally I want him between 237-241 pounds ideally.

 

Nahh, he be playing to tysons strengths then, he aint gona compete with tyson on movement no matter how much weight he loses, as long he aint too heavy and around his normal weight he be fine. He has to play to his strengths and out muscle tysons ass, wilder was too small to do that.

 

He's a fast as he'll ever be, at around 239, 240.
his hands as ample quick enough.
His feet, maybe not.
But Fury's legs aren't what they used to be.

Joshua's problem is going to be figuring out Fury's next move, what style Fury adopts. Joshua needs to be less predictable, and be able to predict and anticipate Fury. That's a real problem.

 

Big laugh at this thread when Joshua destroy Fury, and all the nonseses crap about Fury "insane speed", movement and granite chin, when Joshua destroy him in a fashion !!!

 

It's a bunch of nonsense.

If you analyze both fighters in an unbised manner you'll come to realize that Fury isn't faster than 240lb Aj handspeed wise. Fury has a quicker jab, far better head movement and significantly quicker feet but Aj has the faster hands offensively. It's hilarious when people talk about Fury like he's Ali when he's no faster than Aj. What Fury has is his fluidity over Aj, not speed. Aj is a methodical conventional fighter but it doesn't change the fact that he can throw faster combinations

 

Predicatable outcome fight and I think that good choice to weight in at approx 250 lbs.
Usually to beat up older boxers is easier if you are heavier than these over the hill boxers.
Since Wlad then was 41 y.o and weighted approx 240 lbs while A.J weighted approx 250 lbs looks that beautiful choice.
With old over the hill Povetkin who too was lighter than A.J and A.J had performed pretty well.
With Pulev he too looked good.

Since Fury isn't enough old, maybe for hime better is to come at 245-250 lbs or even a bot more than 250 lbs, then he might increase chances to beat Fury up. Fury maybe will be 256 lbs, maybe 273 or even 275 lbs. maybe 280 lbs.

 

Yes we get it EE supporter Wlad was past it. A prime Wlad obviously have beaten that version of Aj but my point still stands. Wlad was over the hill in both fights with Fury and Joshua but Joshua did far more damage

 

We can't test this.

He looked over the hill before fight vs Pulev too. Btw some his fans suggested that he should retire not to fight vs Pulev.
He like a lot these EE boxers hanged around too long.
Lewis retired when he was 38. Valuev turned from slow to very slow boxer when he was approx 34.
Pov looked over the hill since he was 37.
All this looks pretty natural process.
U.S boxing champ Marciano had retired when he was 32, Ward 33, famous DLH when he was 36.