Should Billy joe still get to fight Andrade?

Yes he should be allowed.
Who cares about PEDs.

Boxings golden age had no real drug tests and the fights were better and the fighters more conditioned.

If you want to watch fights with slower weaker boxers then how about we all just watch women's boxing??


No thank you. Let the boys roid up like they did from the 70s-the early 2000s when boxing was great, they're grown ups. They know the risk

 

Tony Bellew pulls the classic politician trick of 'haven't seen anything about this yet so couldn't possibly comment...'

Coldwell, whilst also avoiding a comment on BJS talks a lot of sense on the recipe for disaster which is the twin competing systems of WADA and VADA.

I don't think this is a place for private sector competition, particularly if they're making non evidence based decisions in order to score points over the competition as I've seen alleged.

 

The problem with your approach is that as young ostensibly healthy men and women start dying from heart attacks and the like it will rapidly result in an outcry, followed by pressure on politicians to ban the sport. So as well as being morally dubious it would swiftly be self defeating.

 

This. I'd like to add that PEDs make people fitter, faster, stronger. In the fight game, that could be the difference between a fighter getting hurt, and a fighter getting REALLY hurt.

 

Dying from heart attacks? Where were all the heart attacks from the70s all the way to the early 2000s?

Where were all the deaths from heart attacks before the self righteous moral police came along(which conveniently only showed up when the Soviet Union fell and we no longer needed to juice up our guys to compete with theirs in the olympics)

The only people dying from heart attacks are bodybuilders taking 10+ time the doses any boxer would take and even then they usually make it to around 45-50 while weighing over 250 pounds

 

how do we know it was a nasal spray lol, cause warren said so. the most corrupt man in boxing hahaha

if its banded where you are fighting then no fight. simple

 

There are some good arguments for legalising at least some PED use in order to better regulate and promote the health of athletes, this is a good example: https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/38/6/666

However as above and also taking into account VanBasten's excellent additional point I don't think boxing would be wise to pursue the path you propose.

 

Dehydration, lack of time off after KO losses and mismatches are far more dangerous risk factors in that regard. PEDs give you an edge.
For the sake of the argument lets say 5 or 10%. Yet you can be matched with someone much bigger, or much better which would be a much bigger factor in how much punichment you take.

Not just boxing but all sports were rampant with PEDs for decades, and nothing happened except a bunch of old guys and non-athletes got their panties in a wad.

 

Not allowing fighters to dehydrate as much(because cranial fluid protecting the brain rehydrates slower than most other tissues in the body)
CTE diagnosis without requiring the patient to be dead.
Forcing fighters to take time off after KO losses.
Less mismatches.
The father son rule the wbc is planning on introducing.


All far more effective and less restrictive than trying to ban PEDs which clearly isnt working, is rewarding corruption and is causing the cancellation of good fights because of positive tests.

Also. You can only test for specific drugs in the banned substance list, a small change in a steroids chemical structure and you have an undetectable designer steroid which you can use for years before they catch on to it.
HGH is still basically undetectable as its clearance time is measured in hours not days.


The whole thing is a joke and if you researched it for a few hours you would see that

 

I think that we can all agree that we all want to see fighters compete on a level playing field but a 5-10% difference at the top level of any sport isn't an 'edge', it's a massive difference.

You make some good points around dehydration. Maybe the power-that-be should just take the boxer's weight on fight day only and this would ostensibly ensure that the fighters weren't too dehydrated beforehand and this would help alleviate risk on that front.

 

My point is that the things that I listed are a bigger factor.

If testing wasabolished it WOULD be an even playing field as it was before, since we all know that some get away even with current testing.

Without testing you get a same playing field, except everybody is faster and stronger and I cancelled fights.
It worked just fine for decades in the sports golden age

 

It wasn't no nasal spray. No fighter ever admits what they really did