should Bivol and Beterbiev be devalued because they're one division champion?

Many multiple weight champs are just weight bullies, particularly with ones from over in North America where that's all the rage. Contrary to what many believe or will try and have you believe Beterbiev isn't some massive LHW he's generally fighting guys his size, a little bit bigger or even a little bit smaller and Bivol is generally fighting bigger guys or much bigger guys, whereas, conversely, we have a two division champ in Haney who literally hasn't fought anyone close to his size yet and even when he moves up to his third division 147 he's still going to be bigger than those guys up there. How do we know this? Because he already weighs more than most 147 pounders do at 140.

Bivol vs Zurdo is another such example of a one division champ vs multiple weight champ massive weight bully. Even though Zurdo came up from SMW and Bivol is a career LHW, Zurdo was way bigger and heavier than Bivol and much bigger than the vast majority of LHWs and even up at CW Zurdo is fighting guys roughly his size or a little bigger despite there being a 32lb gap between CW and his first division SMW. Stick him in there with one of the CW giants like Riakporhe who is basically a HW with SHW dimensions and then he'll be undersized.

Let's not also forget that Bivol and Beterbiev haven't been earning near the kind of purses that their talent level deserves either. I think Lyndon Arthur earned almost as much vs Bivol over in Saudi as Bivol was earning for per title fight prior to facing Clenelo. Haney earned the same amount for beating a completely washed much smaller inactive Linares even though it was only Haney's second fight against a world class opponent, the first being an equally shot and smaller if not more 39 y/o Gamboa, that Beterrbiev and Gvozdyk did combined for facing prime versions of each other in a unification match up.

Beterbiev turned pro at 28.5 y/o and obviously the weight gap between CW and HW is 25lbs not 4,5,6, 7 or 8lbs and the winner of this match up is going to displace Clenela, who many argue albeit I'm not one of them shouldn't even be ranked in the P4P top 10 given all his unofficial losses, from his #4 spot which will put a big smile on many faces and a big frown coupled with a bucketful of tears on many others.

That being said, there is light at the end of the tunnel for Team Clenela as there is a chance that he might be able to climb back up the P4P rankings some day if he can somehow manage to summon the courage to inflate his little ginger hen plums and stop ducking and cherrypicking and dragging up LMWs and MWs in weight, and finally man up to face Benavidez and the actual legit threats in his division.

 

Why isn't Usyk your kind of man or fighter? It's not like he's all that dissimilar from Lomachenko, I mean... he's kind of heavyweight version of him. I don't want you to like him like I like him... but it would be nice if you'd give him a little bit of credit, instead of being a virulent and irrational hater of his, calling him overrated, when he clearly isn't.

The gauntlet he ran at Cruiserweight alone, makes him an all-time great in that division. Now at heavyweight after only a handful of fights he probably has one of the best resumes in the division. Although I have a feeling, when he beats Fury, you still won't give him an ounce of credit.

As far as Bud goes, there are no wins on his resume that equal those on Usyk's. Not even the dried out thoroughly tenderized half baked corpse of Errol Spence. His runs at lightweight and light welter were goddamn dire. Still, he's in my top five, which proves I do rate him.

I'm not being emotional, I'm a foul mouth American, my usages of vulgarities is of a casual nature. Which I understand, doesn't always translate well over the internet.