should boxing be Truly "Anaerobic"?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by nicamarvin, Jun 3, 2013.


  1. nicamarvin

    nicamarvin Guest

    so far all of the loca boxing trainers train our boxing youngsters and teach them Boxing is an anaerobic spot...but these youngsters gass out very early...

    why cant Boxing be an Aerobic sport instead? specially on the smaller weight classes? what I mean if you are a Boxer and have all of the skills of a boxer but then you dedicate yoruself to become a marathonist without losing your musscle mass, then get back at boxing and find out that you dont tire out as much as you did before....

    what's your take on this? :bbb
     
  2. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Soooo basically a boxer with very low work rate? Don't we already have those!?

    It's fine if that's your style, however, if you train that way and come fight night your opponent decides to push the pace, you'll quickly find yourself unable to keep up and you'll soon get yourself some serious beating.
     
  3. Speechless

    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think your definition of anaerobic is very different from ours.
     
  4. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Well,i think you really dont know what you are talking about.
     
  5. Ktrp

    Ktrp New Member Full Member

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    My understanding is that it is likely primarily aerobic + alactic anaerobic. If you are going lactic much, you are going to gas out.

    I suspect it is correct that some fighters push their lactic anaerobic threshold (how long they can work in that range) and its a bit of a dead end relatively to cranking up aerobic power (the maximum power output from aerobic system).

    When you realize this, you can see that most fighters who are considered to have good endurance are not, actually, going all out and hitting the lactic system much. Rather they fight at a high, brisk pace that other fighters have trouble keeping up with.

    Obviously punch combinations are alactic anaerobic, but the ability to recover and do that again relies on the aerobic system.

    At least that's my understanding of all this.
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not as harsh, but this.
     
  7. 20flood

    20flood New Member Full Member

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    Lmao. True though.
     
  8. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do both at the same time, :D.
     
  9. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats because they are idiots who are too smart by half. Aerobic metabolism is very important to almost all anaerobic sports. The only exceptions being sports that are pure 1 rep events like weight lifting and sprinting. But even then aerobic metabolism plays a large part in training for the events. During training a sprinter with a good aerobic metabolism will be able to run more sprints at maximum effort than one with poor aerobic metabolism. During training weight lifter with a good aerobic metabolism will be able to do more sets than one with a poor aerobic metabolism.

    While anaerobic metabolism might handle burst energy. The aerobic metabolism is still what works to recharge the ATP system. The moment you stop the burst the body goes fast to work moving out the lactic acid and recharging your ATP and creatine stores. This process is aerobic.

    That one minute you are sitting on the stool between round the aerobic system is hard at work. The better it is the quicker you will recover.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
     
  11. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    It is a sport in bursts of 3 minutes.

    But if you are truly working for 3 minutes and want to recover for the next round better, you improve the aerobic base. aerobic training helps recovery for all the other work, between days and exercises/rounds/sessions.

    Both have their place. Predominantly training should be anaerobic based (if you can call 3 minutes anaerobic), with aerobic work to aid recovery. Maybe a 2:1 ratio. I know if I couldn't skip for 20 minutes straight I had no business trying to do intense intervals of less time.
     
  12. boxbible

    boxbible Active Member Full Member

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    Xactly...

    For multiple bursts of anaerobic activity, you better have a good aerobic base.
     
  13. TVLPC

    TVLPC Member Full Member

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    Very well put Windingo!:good
     
  14. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not true at all with the sprinters and weightlifting, regardless of your aerobic fitness the ATP-PC system is going to be regenerated by the time your next rep or sprint comes along if you're training properly.
    There's also plenty of evidence that VO2max has no correlation to recovery for repeat sprints.
    Bioenergetic specificity isn't just an issue of energy systems either, there are other muscular and neurological adaptations to take into account as well.

    The more a sprinter has developed his aerobic capacity the lower his maximal capacity for speed will be, there's always a trade off.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If you perform multiple bursts of anaerobic activity your aerobic system will be developed at the same time. The old 'aerobic base' thing is nonsense. You perform activities at the intensity required for your sport and recovery takes care of itself. Performing low intensity aerobic activity is just going to result in maladaptations and decrease your ability to express high power output. You need to train your ability to throw repeated high power punches, not train to decrease your power to a level where it's easier to throw repeat combinations.