Should boxing make rematch clauses illegal?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Nov 14, 2021.


Should boxing make rematch clauses illegal?

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  1. Yes, they should be made illegal

    12.2%
  2. Not in all cases, but they should not be permitted for mandatory opponents

    46.9%
  3. Not in all cases, but decisive stoppage wins should nullify the rematch clause

    28.6%
  4. No

    24.5%
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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    I see Galahad-Martinez has a rematch clause.

    Usyk despite being Joshua's mandatory had to sign for a rematch clause. Dillian Whyte has rematch clauses for all his fights. It's getting so ridiculous that some people are calling Matchroom Re-matchroom.

    Should rematch clauses be made illegal in boxing, at least for mandatories and for fights where the boxer is knocked out like Galahad was yesterday?

    What do you think?
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Not boxing's decision. Boxing is not a single body or legal authority.

    Nothing wrong with rematch clauses it's bog standard and both parties agree to it.
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    But right now your hero Tyson Fury has to waste his time and fight a bum like Dillian Whyte, instead of unifying all the belts against a great fighter in Usyk, because Joshua has a rematch clause forcing his former mandatory to fight him again. This seems unfair to me.

    Rematch clauses should not be permitted for mandatory opponents.
     
  4. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From a fan perspective, yes absolutely ban immediate rematch clauses. Only time we should have an immediate rematch is because the fight was so good the fans demand to see it again.
    Some champ losing his title in a boring lop-sided decision, or getting decisively KTFOed, should never warrant a rematch.

    From a freedom perspective, no. If the two fighters agree to it, it's none of my business. I simply won't pay for the rematch if it's an uninteresting fight.
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Just keep them away from mandatory defences

    Otherwise not too bothered
     
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  6. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They serve a purpose, when someone is a huge name then i can understand it...don't understand Terri Harper and Kid Galahad having them though.
     
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  7. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hate to see things outright banned. I'd prefer something more nuanced, but I think we've gotten to the point where it needs to be fixed.

    Rematches should be based on fight quality rather than outcome.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Whats wrong with a rematch clause?
     
  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, the only way there should be an automatic rematch with a mandatory defence is if there is something controversial, either way, not just suiting the champion.

    And that should be decided by the governing body, not Eddie Hearn.
     
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Only if it's about brothers and having one of them fight you if you beat me or I beat you or the brother beats someone or if we're both brothers or if my brother says so because he's not heavy but rather my own brother. Then, and only then, yes, it should be legal, until such time as rule of law of man makes it illegal always.
     
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    they are becoming far too prevalent

    I get it for long reigning champions or maybe in the case of a unification fight where both put their titles on the line.

    For non title fights? Hell no
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Maybe for mandatory fights. But everything outside of mandatory fights are fair game imo. If fighters don't like it they don't have to take them. Fighting A siders comes with disadvantages. It's the other side to making twice, triple, quadruple what you would otherwise be making.

    However, in mandatory matches, you shouldn't have to choose between the title shot you worked for and earned, and a rematch clause.

    All just imho.
     
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  13. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    This video seems to confirm a rematch clause;

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    Guys have been crushed by voluntaries and gotten immediate rematches before Eddie Hearn's era and outside of his jurisdiction.

    Marco Barrera was ended in five by voluntary Junior Jones and fought him again five months later (the WBO essentially forced that one, it wasn't the result of a clause). Lennox Lewis was splattered by voluntary Rahman in five, rematch was immediate after Lewis went through court to enforce the clause. Sergey Kovalev got flattened by voluntary Alvarez, activated his clause and was in the ring with him again five months later.

    I guess what rankles is the seeming ubiquity of immediate rematches for Matchroom guys who lose big when strongly favored.

    But I don't see Galahad as particularly less deserving of a rematch than any of those I named above. He had Kiko busting up, was outlanding him considerably, was a few seconds shy of banking his fifth round of five, then he got caught by a smart play from a veteran and the fight did a 180° turn in the space of exactly two punches. It's not crazy or by any means historically unprecedented that he should get a chance to correct the blemish.


    As others have said, rematch clauses for mandatory defences are another discussion.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Sometimes an immediate rematch is unwarranted and undeserved.

    But isnt that just as true about all matches in general?
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Who is "Boxing"? I'll write him a suggestion letter if you can give me an address.