Roach has been involved and successful in boxing while you and ariza were both getting cockfed from your fathers breasts while he tinkered with your little baby stinker. anyway watch Chavez in his Latin Furey days and watch his fights now Roach made huge improvements.
I'm not sure how much Chavez was listening to him and following his training in the first place. Did Chavez, to the best of his ability, follow Freddie's training and instructions? Did he listen t Freddie's criticisms? Or did he hire him on the advice of his father and run training camp according to his own desires?