Should Chavez-Taylor have been stopped?

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  1. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ref is not the "timekeeper" - if there is one second on the clock and his rulling is that one fighter cant continue . . .that means the other guy won within the alloted time.

    You can argue that Meldrick "was able" to continue - I would disagree. . .but you cant argue that the Ref should have "given" him the last seconds - that is not power given to the ref.
     
  2. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i remember watching this fight as a kid and being so mad at the stoppage at the time .at the time no one really knew how nuch damage taylor had suffered.all things given he wasn't physically able to continue,so steele made a tough decision he became famous for.i probably would've let him go.but i'm no ref
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I'm not buying if a guy has gone 12 rounds and beats the count in the last round you let the fight continue if he shows no signs of defending himself then you stop it. The red light was on there was less than 10 seconds left in the fight he should have been given that opportunity period. The bottomline is that 6 seconds isn't enough time to do some damage when you have to come all the way across the ring with so little time left to do so.
    I find it hilarious some of these same people criticize refs like Joe Nady for stopping fights early but now are praising the actions of Steele...pathetic.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats just it, you cant even argue that Taylor could have continued, as he never responded to Steele's question, or even gave anykind of a sign that he was ready to continue.
    For God's sake, the only reason that Taylor was standing, was that he was that he had both arms on the ring ropes, had he let go of those ropes, he'd likely have fallen right down on his face.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at a stop watch right now and tell me that 6 seconds is'nt any eternity for a fighter in Taylor's condition.

    .....and lets all let Cho He's family know that that ****ed referee should have let him finish the his fight so that he could die with honor!:-(

    The only reason for the Chavez-Taylor fight to be justified to go to the scorecards would have been if referee Richard Steele had waived the fight when the bell had rung.
    .....even a milisecond before, would not have justified the fight going to the cards.

    1 round=3minutes, and Taylor did not make it to the 3 minute mark!
     
  6. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Refs job is to decide "can this fighter continue"

    not "can this fighter continue for 5 seconds" or however many seconds. If he decides thar he cannot continue then he is compelled to stop it as long is there is any time left . . . no matter how little that time is.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    That's BS refs do this all the time in big fights especially in the last round. Normally if a fighter beats the count and it's in the last round the ref will allow the fight to continue if he takes more abuse and is unable to defend himself then it is stopped.
    Ram I know you have a problem with Nady and his quick trigger but why all of a sudden now do you find Steele's actions justified?
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Come on man that's simply not enough time. Taylor could have held Chavez, ran or went into a guard. 6 seconds simply isn't enough time after a knockdown to do sufficent damage.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The 6 second argument requiers the referee to know exactly how much time is left.
     
  10. Ramshall1

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    If a ref does this he is in th wrong. His job is to decide "can he continue" . . .not "can he continue for 6 seconds".

    The ref is not the timekeeper, everyone knows this.

    When did I have a problem with Nadys "quick trigger"?
     
  11. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought boxers never "run"? :lol:

    seriosly though, he couldnt even respond one bit to the Ref standing right in front of him . . . . how is he gonna respond to a desperate Chavez trying to rip his fukcin head off?

    Steele made the right call.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I could have sworn you were one of the people who criticized him in past threads...maybe I have you mixed up with someone else. I thought you were in on it.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Boxers do run, hold cover up they do all kinds of stuff after being knocked down to survive.
     
  14. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    some of em run without being knocked down, ie Fraud Vs Baldy. :D
     
  15. Ramshall1

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    No, If its a close call I tend to give the ref the benifit of the doubt on stoppages - theyre closer to the action.

    One of the few calls I thought was clearly bad was Cal-Manfredo.