Should Danny Williams retire?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Words, May 31, 2008.


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  1. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've seen Danny Williams get brutalised and battered more than just about any other active boxer. He got smashed up horribly by Sinan Samil Sam, eight rounds of prolonged torture when he was outclassed by Vitali Klitschko and even Audley Harrison destroyed him badly.

    When he was 230lbs and younger he was a good fighter, infact he was world-class, but he hasn't been like that in a long time. He's 40lbs overweight, slow as a tank and has horrible balance.

    Even when he wins, he always seems to absorb an unhealthy amount of punches in the process. Mike Tyson worked him all over for 2 rounds which, even at Tyson's state of decline, was painful to watch. Very few fighters can withstand that type of aggressive Tyson onslaught, but Danny has made a career out of taking beatings. Against Gammer, Platov and now Airich he was getting hurt early and had to dig deep to get the victories, which does not inspire confidence with his chances against anyone half-decent. I wouldnt be surprised if John McDermott beat him.

    I think he should retire, because even though he's just about good enough to beat british and european level guys like Airich and McDermott, he's just going recieve another beating whenever he steps up to world class. David Haye, Alex Povetkin, Sam Peter, Nicaloy Valuev and Ruslan Chagaev would all beat him up. I'd fear for his life against Wlad Klitchko. I dont wanna see Danny get hurt coz he's supposed to be a nice guy and everything. I think that he is at a serious risk of getting injured, or more likely develop parkinsons or other forms of brain damage, and ought to think about his safety if he's seriously after a title shot.
     
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  2. TFFP

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    No.
     
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  3. dwilson

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    McDermott is far better a fighter than the current Danny Williams and will win by stoppage. Danny was always good but never capable of mixing it with top 20 fighters.
     
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  4. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think those years pushing bangers round Brixton and drinking 2000000 litres of water before weighin have beginning to catch up with Danny.

    The Muslim Brotherhood lads who train him now are not improving him in any way.
     
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  5. dwilson

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    McDermott will beat Danny by late KO or wide decision. McDermott got embarrassed against Skelton but he has put that performance behind him and is looking decent. Plus Skelton is far better than Williams.
     
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  6. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whats with you and this comment? I've seen you mention it in every danny williams thread since this fight and its getting irritating.

    He probably wants to stack his money at this point in his career and use cheap cornermen.

    What difference does it make if they are Muslim or not?
     
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  7. seconds out

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    danny williams should box a little bit more than he scraps.
     
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  8. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although stil the best British heavyweight on his night, I fear for his long term health if he keeps on fighting. I think he should decide to pack it in while he's still in good health. Hope he gets enough money in his last few fights now to retire comfortably but I would have though he earned enough against Tyson and Klitschko to be alright.

    Best of luck in the next fight Danny, but call it a day soon!
     
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  9. archie

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    Completely agree with you, he is arguably still the best in Britain - I am not syaing this is a good thing and I suspect Haye's introduction into the heavyweight mix may soon alter this, but he does deserves a few final pay days while he still can entertain...the faith of his trainers and corner men is of no relevance.
     
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  10. kurt2006

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    They are happy to be known as the Muslim Brothers and proud of it so whats your problem with it ? What you want me to call them ? They are proud of their religion and do not have a problem with being called the Muslim Brotherhood yet for some reason you do.

    Next you will have a problem with people calling Billy Graham the preacher.

    You are like those who make unwanted noise about Baa Baa Black Sheep on behalf of others.

    The point in mentioning the Brotherhood was that it is all nice and lovely doing this brotherhood thing and it works with the kids and keeps them off the streets but Danny needs proper training and with his current setup he is not getting it. Fighters who do not prepare properly can get seriously hurt. Maybe you want to see an illprepared Danny hurt but some of us do not.
     
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  11. TFFP

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    Williams will beat the **** out of McDermott, inside 5 rounds. The only time he fought a reasonable opponent his chubby ass got KTFO inside 1 round, thats shameful for a top level British heavyweight. How is he going to deal with Williams power? Williams can turn up at 350lbs and that tubby lump of lard will get knocked out as soon as Danny lands a power punch

    Williams is still the best British heavyweight.
     
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  12. 9Ball

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    Yes I think he should retire.
    Unless he is skint ;)
     
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  13. TommyV

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    Couldn't agree more, bar Haye obviously now Williams is still the best British heavyweight when he turns up in shape, around the 240lbs mark, and committed.

    He will KO McDermott within 7. Stopping Pele Reid does nothing to suggest he will beat Williams for me.
     
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  14. jc

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    I think he can fight on. He has been winning, but there does not seem to be any direction in his career. Neither he nor his managers seem to have a clue what route to take him down.

    He goes missing then comes back light to win the British title, then goes missing and starts travelling around fighting no names in Europe. I think if he wants to really get some big fights to finish his career defendng the british title again is the way to go. He either wants to go out a champion like he is or a journey pro for mediocre German heavyweights to feast on ala Julius Francis.

    Any version of Danny Wlliams knock out McDermott.
     
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  15. LB3000

    LB3000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I also agree with you guys who think he is the best British heavyweight (apart from Haye). He might not make it easy for himself but I can see him stopping McDermott. He hasn't taken this fight on short notice so I really hope he comes in decent shape.
     
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