Should dodson get another go at quigley or is it Paul Smith's time?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by avidlemon, Apr 11, 2009.


  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    hes not that strong IMO

    i reckon he could be a european champ and definitly a british champ

    pepe carrea says he can become a world champ (but he also once hit angelo dundee on the back of the head, so dont pay attention)
     
  2. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    I think you must be thinking about 2 different fighters. Quigley will get no where near Smith in terms of speed, power, ability, and balls.
    If you have wathced Smith at all, and seen the leverage he gets in punches, and seen the manner in which he has stopped some of his opponents, i think it would be a massive mistake to say Smith is not a puncher at all, and quigley would be making a massive mistake if he starts to think the same.
     
  3. box-now

    box-now Active Member Full Member

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    I never said he cant punch, I said he was an average puncher, he's def not the one shot KO king your making out, I was just pointing out that Smith is not a bigger puncher than Dodson who hit Quigley with loads of good shots and was unable to stop him, so there is no reason to think that Smith will be able to stop him, The simple point here is Smith is very average, average speed, average ability, average power, he may beat Quigley he may not, it's to close to call.

    The thing that pisses me of with Smith is the thinks he's better than he is, 90% of his fights have been a bad performance it's not like he's been **** hot and had 1 or 2 bad nights, at what point does he relise he's performing at his level, and just except it instead of it always just being an off night, he's had 20 odd fights and only won the English title which he then lost in his first defence, do you not think if Warren had any faith in him he would have pushed further?.
     
  4. avidlemon

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    Maybe warren would have pushed him by now, maybe not. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? I think the thing is, and this is the great thing about forums, that we have different opinions, and either of us could be right.
    I just happen to think that Smith is someone who is good enough to reach european level Maybe world, depending on how he develops. I didn't see quigley do anything to suggest he could trouble Smith in the slightest in his fight against Dodson. I think that sometimes a boxers KO % tells the trurth, and sometimes is doesn't. It certainly can indicate power, but it depends on if you come up against a defensive fighter, someone who can genuinely take a punch etc. For example if Smith fought someone with the punch resistance of Khan for example, he would have a 100% KO ratio.
    Who knows though, Smith may have a night where he gets Quigley in trouble, doesn't finish him, then punches himself out, and Quigley takes him 10 rounds plus, and catches him sweet.
    Anything can happen. This is why i love boxing.
    Just on this occasion, Quigley is swimming too deep for his ability
     
  5. cityofgod

    cityofgod Worcester warrior Full Member

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    Dodson lost.

    By KO.

    So unfortunately, he's not going to get one.

    This isn't Hatton vs Mayweather 2 !
     
  6. avidlemon

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    Fair do's mate, but i am based in liverpool, and this matters to us up here, granted it is not hatton v mayweather 2.
    I think the fact we are discussing whether he should or shouldn't get another shot indicates that we know he was KO'D, as we were paying attention when it was on the TV.
     
  7. box-now

    box-now Active Member Full Member

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    I do think Smith should get the next shot, he's waited long enough, Dodson would be a good one if Quigley retains, I still dont get where Magee comes in to all this, because no matter what happens with Smith v Quigley, Magee in my eyes is still the British champ. When is Smith Quigley ment to be taking place.
     
  8. avidlemon

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    I think magee comes into it purely because he is regarded by many still as the champ, and whoever is the british champ, if they have anything about them, would want to fight and defeat magee to be regarded as the bona fide champ. Smith quigley as i understand it has to take place before september, and bids need to be submitted by mid may, so we wshould know for sure in about a month, hopefully sooner.
    You are right, Smith has waited long enough, am sure he is ****ed off quigley was in there before him.
    It will only add to the needle that already exists
     
  9. box-now

    box-now Active Member Full Member

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    I think both Quigley and Smith could easily make middle weight, they both look fat at supermiddle. The winner should be forced to face Magee unless he is moving on to other things, I dont think either of them would last the distance with Magee.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    sorry.
     
  11. avidlemon

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    Don't think Smith would have any issue facing magee. I feel that smith looks stronger at smw, whereas Quigley did look more middleweight fighting at SMW.
    Would be a cracking fight whoever fought magee though
     
  12. box-now

    box-now Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe he wouldnt but you seem to think Paul Smith will beat anyone put in front of him, when time and time again he has shown domestic level skills at best, I think you must be closely conected with him in some way or another as he is the only fighter you more or less post about, but you should not let your heart rule your head, Smith will have his hands full with Quigley if and it is a big if he manages to beat him and ends up facing Magee I have no doubt what so ever that Magee would win quite easily. S
     
  13. avidlemon

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    Not connected to Smith at all. I like him as a fighter. We are allowed to have favourites aren't we. Quite sad you are looking at how much i post about Smith.
    Never said Smith woud beat anyone he fights. Wouldn't have much chance at world level at the moment, quite possibly even european level. I Just feel he would grow into it, as the base ingrediants are there for him.
    There is no If about Smith beating Quigley, it is how and when. Not saying it is not possible for Quigley to win. Think it isa fair for me to ppose the question, are you connected with Quigley at all? I do not know who else you post about, as i can't be arsed to check, but you seem to be very intent on pushing this argument.
    Don't forgoet, Quigley will be facing someone who was ready for this type of opporunity about 6 fights ago, and time makes people hungry.
    As for Smith v Magee, my confidence in Smith may well come and bite me on the arse in the future. I just don't think it would be as easy as you are predicting.
    But finally on Smith v Quigley. Smigga tko 4-6 rounds, mark my words.
    If i am wrong, i will start a thread to appologise.
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dodson vs Quigley...was like watching two drunk people fight, outside a pub. Dodson could of won the fight..if he did'nt decide to fight like a complete ******, he should of just jabbed and used his better agility in the closing rounds.

    Paul Smith will bring a black board and chalk to the ring against Quigley.

    Because he's getting schooled...

    Just felt like saying that line ha ha ha
     
  15. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    Indeed :yep