Should every fight have a rehydration clause?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Mar 11, 2022.


Should every fight (apart from HW) have a rehydration clause

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    16 vote(s)
    44.4%
  1. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    I agree. Problem.was some were dehydrated on the scales on the day but in this day n age there is hydration tests, that solves the issue for me. Make weight and be no less than a particular % hydrated., a few hours before the fight
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fans and media need to know a day in advance whether it will be a title fight or not. If they weighed in 3 hours before the fight, and a fighter fails to make weight that close to the match, then fans will feel ripped off thinking they were about to see a title fight then finding out that the title isn't on the line when they show up at the arena. Fans would also feel ripped off if they ordered the PPV then right before the fight they find out it isn't a title fight anymore.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That's bs. People still fail to make weight not the day before.

    If a fighter doesn't have the capacity to fight a LWW fight around the LWW limit, he shouldn't be doing it.
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    The only Clause I like is The Santa. And all this other nonsense is just some stuff.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    For the business and economy of the sport, sure. I think you overrate how much people care about titles and willingness to demand a refund or be upset if a title fight gets altered 30 hours before their ticket gets scanned as opposed to 3 hours. Then again I know I underrate how much casuals care about titles, so I dont know.

    But for competitive fairness, same day weigh ins do seem more appropriate. I suppose you could just as easily make the argument that if both play by the same rules, fair play to he who maximizes the wiggle room.
     
  6. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that's the standard procedure then it's 'fair' as everyone is adapted for it in a particular class.
    Very different from someone like Canelo demanding a hydration clause on bigger fighters who do not normally do it in their weight class in order to drain them.

    What Canelo is doing would be the equivalent of some A-side welter coming up and demanding Canelo suddenly have a 10lb rehydration limit at 160 for their fight, when Canelo has typically been draining 15-20lbs. It would ruin him on the night.
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Complete BS
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That's exactly the point. If it ruins him on the night, he shouldn't be fighting in that division in the first place.

    A 160 pound fighter should not feel ruined because they can't weigh in above LHW ffs.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Problem is, boxers will always push the envelope to gain advantages and same day weigh-ins won't stop them boiling down and rehydrating. Same day weigh-ins will give them less time to recover from a weight drain and this would be more dangerous.

    We could say 'on their head be it', if that's the gamble they're prepared to take and there's some merit to that. But I do think we'd see more boxers badly injured or worse as a result of giving them less time to recuperate.

    Day-before weigh-ins save boxers from themselves...
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Day before weigh ins save boxers who are essentially cheating from themselves, but put the opponent at risk.Swap it around its a much easier solution. "Don't do it, it's ****ing dangerous". I highly doubt many people would be up for it after a few serious injuries, and let's face it, every boxer who cuts 20lbs of water weight in two days, knows exactly how dangerous it is to then get punched in the face afterwards. And if the ease of use is gone, and the risk is far greater, rehydration issues become far less prominent and the penalty for missing weight is far more severe because you have to essentially do a two hour intense cardio session six hours before your fight if you miss.

    If the weigh in was six hours before the card like it used to be, things would be a lot simpler and for the most part, it'd be safer too.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a major flaw to same day weigh-ins. By having it 24 hours before the match, if a fighter misses weight, and has to do a cardio session to shave off a half of lb to make weight, it's far safer for the athlete to have that 24 hours before, so then he has 24 hours to recover from that session before having to fight.

    It wouldn't be safer or productive because if a fighter misses weight, and comes in a half lb or a lb over, it is too close to a fight to get on a stationary bike, treadmill or sauna with the fight mere hours away. Having the weigh-in that close to the match would cause the attempt to shed excess weight to greatly affect his energy level and stamina in the ring. Also it would add a cloud of uncertainty to big events. Imagine if there was a major PPV, but then 6 hours before the match one fighter misses weight, then it becomes a major threat to the PPV and you'd could go into a PPV not knowing if the main event fighter makes weight or not and could a possible excuse if a fighter performs poorly.

    Also logistically it would cause problems. If your weigh-in is 6 hours before the main event of a PPV, then what about the fighters who are on the undercards? Some PPVs last 3 or 4 hours and sometimes the prelims start before the main card. So lets say you were fighting on a prelims. If your weigh in is 6 hours before the main event, then that could be like 1 hour before the first prelim starts. What if a fighter who's scheduled for the first prelim misses weight, then you'd have to potentially reshuffle the fight order. It creates all kinds of logistic problems for boxers on the day of the fight, when they already have a ton of things to worry about. Handwraps, gloves, sleep, food, etc. Now you're asking them to get the arena earlier than they normally would, adding a whole nother layer that could potentially derail or add controversy to the fight.

    By having the weigh ins the night before the fight, it gives fighters that 24 hour cushion to make weight, then prepare for the next night. It also gives the fans something to look forward to on a Friday Afternoon or Night, to get fans psyched for the card on Saturday. The idea of same day weigh-ins just isn't practical in this day and age. Weigh-ins occur 1 day before fight night, that's just the way it is. It's not gonna change to same day weigh-ins and that's not better than the weigh-in that has become standard in boxing 24 hours before. It just works better the way it is.
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Cutting weight will always be part of wrestling and boxing.
    Not saying it’s fair but it’s not going away IMO
     
  13. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Same day weigh in, if fighters foolish enough to come the scales dehydrated that is their choice, same day weigh in is not going to bother a boxer fighting at their correct weight, it only negatively affects those fighting below their safe weight class.
    You make weight day of the fight then it is job done, no need to be having rehydration clauses.
     
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