Should Froch just pack his bags for the US of A?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Losfer_Words, Oct 5, 2009.


  1. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've been thinking about this ever since the Super Six was announced and the subsequent struggle to get a TV deal as a package for the tourney over here in the UK. Here's how I see the situation:

    Froch is coming off of a huge win in dramatic fashion over a huge name in the States. He was also told after the victory over JT by the honchos at Showtime that 'as long as he fights like that [like he did against Taylor]' he'd be guaranteed slots on Showtime's boxing schedule. Going by American boxing sites as well as the general forum's reaction to him since the win, he has also captured the interest of both the hardcore and casual boxing fan in the States. Couple that with Froch's Polish roots and I think you have a potentially huge product to sell over there.

    Contrast that with over here: the man on the street doesn't know who Carl Froch is; the Nottingham Arena is yet to sell-out; and Froch has struggled to get TV backing in the UK so much that his inept promoter (Hennessy) has had to set up a stream on his website for the JT fight and is now having a stab at unchartered territory on a brand new PPV station that seems set to bomb.

    With all of this in mind, does it not just make more sense for Froch to go to the States full-time? For the sake of arguement, let's take McCracken out of the picture when considering this.

    As always, any thoughts are welcome:good.
     
  2. DAVEMAKER

    DAVEMAKER Member Full Member

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    i think he would be more appreciated over there.... but i think he likes to fight in nottingham to much
     
  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Yeah - it's an absolute no-brainer.

    Lewis did it, Hamed and Hatton fought there regularly as well.... why not?
     
  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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  5. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Yes he would do very good business in the states also he could pack out stadiums in Canada too.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I expect Mick Hennessy would be just as capable of failing to sell out arenas, providing terrible undercards, failing to get tv deals and generally being incompetent in the USA.

    Conclusion: Froch's geographical location is not the problem.
     
  7. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Wonder what would happen to Froch if he jumped into bedwith one of the Franks or Hatton?
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    He'd be on a TV station that didn't have to be invented for the purpose.
     
  9. kleonkinch

    kleonkinch New Member Full Member

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    Bad Chad sold 1,426 tickets for his last fight. Maybe he should move to the UK.
     
  10. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    He needs to leave Hennessy.
    He may be loyal but he is gona end up doing himself out of alot of exposure and dosh. Go to the US and sign with Arum or Golden Boy, he would probably even have more chance getting a tv deal with Hatton than Hennessy. **** Promoter.
     
  11. kleonkinch

    kleonkinch New Member Full Member

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    Sky Sports are the only game in town. Carl needs to get himself on there anyway he can. Look what they have done for David Haye. I can't turn on the tv without seeing him. He must be better known now than at anytime in his career and he hasn't fought for a year.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sky are really pushing Haye at the minute.

    Froch should sign with DiBella. A promoter that beleives in him.

    Froch still cant sell out in nottingham here. Its a joke. Hennesey is a joke.
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The question isn't so much about Hennessy being a **** promoter, it's more about Froch's chances at becoming a huge star Stateside. It goes without saying that Hennessy is completely inept (as I said above)- I'm just asking if Froch's career would be better off in the States:good.
     
  14. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    And my answer was that, if changing location was the only change, no. Hennessy would still be the problem.

    There's no reason to think that he could go to the US and be headlining shows and selling out arenas. The US is hardly a hotbed of boxing these days and most of the people that do attract crowds have either a regional base or a particular constituency. As kleonkinch pointed out Dawson fought Tarver twice for combined ticket sales of less than 3000. That's appalling. Froch couldn't hope to get anywhere near the crowds in the US that he can get in Nottingham (which are actually pretty good).

    If we're talking switching to an American promoter, then that's obviously a different matter. However the switch of promoter would be more relevant than the change of location imo. In fact I'm pretty sure any promoter would want him to carry on having some fights in Nottingham. The fanbase that he's built up there is not to be sneezed at and not easily replicable.

    If we're discussing options though, here's one no-one has suggested: froch should ditch Hennessy and sign up with Sauerland Promotions. Competent promoters and a better fit for Froch's mentality than someone like Arum.
     
  15. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    11-0. Mr Froch, America awaits:good.