Should George Chuvalo be inducted into the hall of fame?

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  1. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    your beating a dead horse my friend its a non issue as far as i'm concerned ..chuvalo 93 fights never off his feet no way your ever going to change that but for some reason you'd love too.we are talking about maybe the most durable heavyweight here ever
     
  2. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said that's my opinion. I'm free to express it. As for most durable, sorry but that place is already occupied by Oliver McCall, who faced harder punchers, spent a lot more time with them than Chuvalo and was never off his feet officially or unofficially, never stunned and never being anywhere near out on his feet, unlike Chuvalo, for whom just a few punches from Foreman were enough (I'd guess 3-4 punches in a row, at most, only one of which was really hard) to be out on his feet.
     
  3. bigjake

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    like you say its your opinion,mccall never fought the punchers chuvalo did and he also is known for taking drugs,which should remove him from any talk of alltime best chin.chuvalo was never off his feet as an amature in training or as a pro fighter.i don't think big george chuvalo will lose sleep over your opinions at night
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Actually, McCall was stunned by Lewis in round 3 and wobbled by Seldon. No one is inhuman.
     
  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chuvalo didn't even come close to facing punchers of caliber that McCall faced. Foreman was the hardest puncher he faced, and Foreman had a heavy punch, but never a KO artist and had very poor precision, accuracy and timing. Tyson, Lewis, Bruno all hit harder than Foreman. The rest of Chuvalo's opponents were much weaker punchers than Foreman, far inferior as punchers.
    And Chuvalo was off his feet, the footage of Bonavena fight is a clear evidence of that.

    McCall wasn't stunned by Lewis. He sometimes lost balance from his jerky defense, but it never showed on his legs (which buckle when a fighter is stunned, the way Chuvalo's legs buckled vs Bonavena and Foreman).
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Your bull**** never ceases to amaze me.
     
  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please, come on and name one or two punch knockdowns or knockouts that you know among the Foreman fights you have seen? I've seen over 30 fights, with only a couple of one or two punch KDs and a couple more one or two punch KO's. Never a KO artist, everyone who has seen enough of Foreman knows this.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    I've thought about this question a little bit more, and the more I think about the more convinced I am that there should be a place in the HOF for boxers who have displayed either an exceptional chin or courage throughout their career. Other sports have iron man considerations, usually related to longivity or to playing consecutive games in a row etc.

    I respect all boxers, but particularly those who go into the ring, knowing their skills are going to be second to their opponents and still give it their best, knowing that they're going to get the crap kicked out of them. Yet, they refuse to give up and they refuse to go down.

    That's a hell of a way to make a living.

    So why not consider the Chuvalo's and the Gatti's of the sport for consideration? They were near enough to the top, where these other skill sets they possess matter.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Watch 1:06 of the third round, Lewis landed a counter right hand that McCall never saw, his legs buckled momentarily.
     
  10. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    if stupidity could get you banned from this forum you'd be long gone
     
  11. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His legs are not shown in the copy I have, I don't see them buckle, he lost balance a little bit is all.
     
  12. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are getting banned for personal insults, so if somebody was to be banned, it would not be me. Well, if you are such an expert, tell me three Chuvalo's opponents who hit harder than three fighters I named? I'll add Bert Cooper to the list of big punchers, so, please, four Chuvalo's opponents?
     
  13. bigjake

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    bob baker,mike dejohn,bob avery,george foreman,joe frazier,jerry quarry, cleveland williams, floyd patterson,among others
     
  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And it shouldn't be very hard for you to name best examples of their punching effectiveness at heavyweight? Such as one punch KD's and KO's.
     
  15. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    i'm not getting sucked into your lil game my friend,you wanted 4 i gave you several among many.george chuvalo is the man when it comes to heavyweight chins